When Enid goes over the wall. Carl follow her only this time they don't come across a walker, but a another group pf survivers. Only this group torture the men for entertainment an let the woman watch. So basely it's that they ran into the group Carl gets tortured and Enid is forced to watch.
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"THE BRINGER OF DEATH."
"Thats what they call him, the one who killed the men in my group and probably the monster who killed your people. The bringer of death."
"Then we find him."