Roland says ''That's why all of us are here.''. Pedro says ''I know.''. Roland says ''I just gave you a compliment about your creativity I didn't need an explanation,but reminding yourself and the others why you are here,it feels like boosting their motivation.''. Pedro says ''I will never know who I am until I let go off myself and feel the freedom.''.
Roland says ''Correct.But here is a little difference. You are aiming for your own freedom,while I'm aiming for the colective freedom.''. Pedro says ''You are wrong Roland. None of us can even give an estimate number of how much people are in our omniverse. I don't even know how much % of that are exposed to the real thing. I give an example with myself and what I want,because this is what everyone wants. The first step was to destroy the generals that were putting this censor on us. What follows is to become Toriko. To be Toriko isn't to be selfish,it's to be giving. Because a Toriko must share his freedom with the others. It will move them towards the best future.''.
Roland says ''We are on the same opinion,but the thing is that we both think we are the better Toriko.The fight is based not only on who is the strongest,but who has the strongest will,who's desire is the strongest. You can be extremely strong,but if you have no desire to share,what is the point of being Toriko?''. Pedro says ''Exactly,what you are doing is no different then what the generals do. A good Toriko is not scared to oppose the generals and to lead the omniverse into freedom.''. Roland says ''This is exactly why Elmo is listed as the best,that's why he has the title of Toguro.''.