How to 'look good, feel good, play good' - Part 2

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"This week, I wanted to chat about something that you have both experienced that maybe not a lot of people will go through in their life. And that is that explosion of fame and interest in your lives that you were exposed to after winning the euros. First of all, do you see yourself as famous?" Vick asks, less and Ella quickly responding with no.

"This is always a hard question for liv." Less adds

"It is hard, because I don't see myself at famous, but then I'll pop to town for a quick shop, just grabbing the bits I need. And then I'll get there at ten and then I'll only be jumping back in the car gone one o'clock because I've had over fifty people stop me to take pictures or sign stuff. And it's when I think back to all the numerous people who have stopped that day, that's when I think, like wow that's a lot of people. So it is hard."

"I'd say you're famous, Liv. You're the face of women's football, england and arsenals star girl." Ella tells me

"Yeah, but I see myself as a mum who does what she loves and that's playing football. But I don't like to think of myself as famous." I say

"Is there a restaurant in your hometown that has your picture on the wall?" Vick asks

"Not a restaurant, but a pub in tyldesley and I am o the side of that and it's pretty big to be fair. It's sick actually, every time o drive past, see myself on the wall but I'm not on a restaurant." Ella says and we make fun of Ella's pronunciation of restaurant.

"I love how she says restaurant."

"Talk to me about those first few days after lifting that trophy. How did you feel like your lives changed?"

"Wow."

"Yeah, it was weird, wasn't it?" Less says. "I remember like after the euros like the first few days, almost feeling like — not lost — but you go from being on a schedule for about six weeks to then winning it and having the highest or highs to then coming out and you're just back in normal life. Like you've got some time off, we didn't know what to do with ourselves, didn't know how to start cooking again, had to start getting our heads out of that. You're coming down from such an amazing experience." Less explains

"It was as if you were being let back into the wild. Like the world was the wild. Cause we were in such a bubble and we didn't see the impact we were making outside of that bubble, we didn't see how big it was, we obviously saw the crowds and stuff but we didn't know until we got out of it just how big it all was and I think that took us all by surprise. During the euros, I logged out of all my social media accounts just because of some of the comments I was getting, but when I logged back in after the tournament, I had thousands upon thousands of messages in my DMs from different footballers, journalists wanting to interview, these girls and boys saying how much they wanted to grow up and be like me. It was just such an overwhelming experience." I say

"I actually think that, it's not spoken about, but lots of us struggled a little bit." Less adds

"A hundred percent. I would probably say I still struggle now." Ella says

"We were literally — no one cared, no one talked — we literally played football and that was it, but now you're under so much scrutiny all the time. Like pressure and I get that is the game and the games growing, women's footballs growing and that's what we want for it but you're never prepared for it. It's just hard at times."

"What kind of pressure is that? That you're feeling from the outside world?" Vick questions

"I think we've learnt to deal with it a lot better but at the start it was just crazy. Like people care so much about you, about your personal life, about what you're doing on your days off, about why you're here and there. And I mean, during the euros, everyone learnt that me and livvy are married, and then after the euros, we decided we were going to start a family. And then everyone just wanted to know about us, and now our daughters too. People love to know anything they can about lotts and mais, which is why we don't share everything on social media. It's all just woah, we're just tryna live life, play football and enjoy it with our family." Less continues

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