unpopular opinion I know but i don't hate hate him I dislike him bc I know that he didn't become the joker just bc he wanted to but he's still some what in control of what he does The main reason why i don't like him is bc He killed Jason Todd who was a former robin the 2nd one to be exact who went on a mission to find his bio mom comic logic made it to where joker was in the same place and Jason's mom was working for him and after Jason told his mom he was robin she turned him into the joker so naturally Joker beat him half to death with a crowbar and then left Jason and his mom to blow up Jason crawled to his mom when he realized there was no way out and covered her to try and shield her from the explosion when bruce got there she was alive but died a few seconds after Jason was dead he was bout 10 years old there more to his story but y'all had enough spoilers
