Daimyen

I swear that every time I talk with a conservative Christian in Wattpad, I become more convinced that they are all either monsters or completely blind to their own actions. There was a record number of violent attacks on Pride parades this year. Over 200 anti-LGBT laws have been proposed in 2022 this far in USA alone. The mental health of LGBT youth has dropped to rock bottom. Republicans are trying to make it a crime to mention that LGBT people exist. And since all that doesn’t stay in USA but spreads to Europe, for the first time in my life (despite having grown up in 99% Lutheran country), I’m scared that some ”Christian” will decide to kill me because I’m a teacher and openly trans and gay.
          	
          	And yet I’m supposed to be the bad guy for speaking against their rhetoric that my existence is harmful to myself and the society. They’re all doing it out of love and respecting my views. Yeah, right. I’ve moved past the time I believed that ”love” meant labeling me as less than human unless I change who I am (narcissistic parents raise messed-up children).
          	
          	Words have consequences. If you keep insisting that some people are harmful to the society (or family or children), you are also guilty when someone inspired by those words commits acts of violence (physical, emotional or legislative).

Daimyen

@MidwestMagic I’m not really familiar with those groups you mentioned. The Catholic hardliners seen in the media certainly seem politically motivated (just look at the blatant favoritism in the Supreme Court when Christians want exemptions from laws), but the Wattpadders look just like a bunch of kids who have been indictrinated to make clear to everyone that they don’t support LGBT. The good ones don’t really know why and can be reasoned with. The rest get all insulted that I’m not respecting their religious beliefs when I don’t accept being called harmful. My existence and value are not a religious belief we can agree to disagree on. Period.
          	  
          	  Overall, I find American ”conservative” Christianity (progressives are cool, and I especially like Old Catholics) a strange kind of creature. I was taught Christianity in school and attending church at the end of semester was mandatory. The overall topics were always love, charity and not judging others. Only fringe groups made ”sexual purity” their focus (it was a common joke that they couldn’t have laundry machines with see-through windows since seeing underwear being washed was such a scandal). Then the school I worked in hired an evangelical who had grown up as a missionary in Africa and graduated from an university in USA. Even local Christian teachers considered him too extreme, and he absolutely hated how loved and respected I was. Of course he never said that out loud - I only figured it out after he had left (his contract wasn’t renewed since he wasn’t actually teaching what he was hired to teach and he made some really problematic anti-Muslim and racist statements). But it must have been eating him alive that instead of condemning me to hell, the local Christians praised me as ”the most Jesus-like person they had ever met” (a bit awkward, but I do try to live out his command of sacrificial love, because it’s a right thing to do).
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Daimyen

@MidwestMagic Good to hear the input of a sensible Christian. Unfortunately, it’s no longer just Southern Baptists. It’s pretty much everyone calling themselves conservative evangelicals, with some conservative Catholics thrown in the mix. At some point opposing LGBTQ people became the most important thing in their faith.
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commonmage

@Daimyen it's literally so sick
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AquaGloss

Hey, just wanted to say I saw your comment and also yeah I deleted mine (I'm kinda done with the conversation and just don't want to get pulled back in if someone else jumps in in the future) but I have put some thought into your reply and while I can't say that I fully agree, I'm going to take into consideration what you have said. I don't necessarily intend on changing my beliefs, however I will confess that I'm still learning and trying to figure out how to interact with others who disagree with said beliefs, such as members of the LGBTQ community and I'm not always right.Thanks for discussing and debating with me. I try to learn from these types of interactions and implement that knowledge in similar future interactions with others. It's also renewed my consideration for taking up theology (like, not just Bible study but the actual professional study; I wasn't sure if the way I worded that made sense or not lol)  

Daimyen

@AquaGloss You’re welcome. It’s up to you if you believe that ”God’s way” as you see it is the best way - although I hope meeting genuinely good people who believe differently will eventually make you change your mind. It’s the ”harmful to society” rhetoric that’s not true and leads to real harm to LGBTQ people.
            
            Theology is quite interesting. I have been reading on critical Bible studies, the history of Christianity, comparison with Judaism, the cultural context and all that stuff for a few years whenever I have time (getting my students through the pandemic has taken most of my free time lately, though). I recommend seeking resources that don’t advertise biblical inerrancy. When inerrancy enters the picture, honesty gets thrown out of the window (trust me, I have seen all the excuses why murdering babies is supposedly good and just in the Old Testament).
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Daimyen

I swear that every time I talk with a conservative Christian in Wattpad, I become more convinced that they are all either monsters or completely blind to their own actions. There was a record number of violent attacks on Pride parades this year. Over 200 anti-LGBT laws have been proposed in 2022 this far in USA alone. The mental health of LGBT youth has dropped to rock bottom. Republicans are trying to make it a crime to mention that LGBT people exist. And since all that doesn’t stay in USA but spreads to Europe, for the first time in my life (despite having grown up in 99% Lutheran country), I’m scared that some ”Christian” will decide to kill me because I’m a teacher and openly trans and gay.
          
          And yet I’m supposed to be the bad guy for speaking against their rhetoric that my existence is harmful to myself and the society. They’re all doing it out of love and respecting my views. Yeah, right. I’ve moved past the time I believed that ”love” meant labeling me as less than human unless I change who I am (narcissistic parents raise messed-up children).
          
          Words have consequences. If you keep insisting that some people are harmful to the society (or family or children), you are also guilty when someone inspired by those words commits acts of violence (physical, emotional or legislative).

Daimyen

@MidwestMagic I’m not really familiar with those groups you mentioned. The Catholic hardliners seen in the media certainly seem politically motivated (just look at the blatant favoritism in the Supreme Court when Christians want exemptions from laws), but the Wattpadders look just like a bunch of kids who have been indictrinated to make clear to everyone that they don’t support LGBT. The good ones don’t really know why and can be reasoned with. The rest get all insulted that I’m not respecting their religious beliefs when I don’t accept being called harmful. My existence and value are not a religious belief we can agree to disagree on. Period.
            
            Overall, I find American ”conservative” Christianity (progressives are cool, and I especially like Old Catholics) a strange kind of creature. I was taught Christianity in school and attending church at the end of semester was mandatory. The overall topics were always love, charity and not judging others. Only fringe groups made ”sexual purity” their focus (it was a common joke that they couldn’t have laundry machines with see-through windows since seeing underwear being washed was such a scandal). Then the school I worked in hired an evangelical who had grown up as a missionary in Africa and graduated from an university in USA. Even local Christian teachers considered him too extreme, and he absolutely hated how loved and respected I was. Of course he never said that out loud - I only figured it out after he had left (his contract wasn’t renewed since he wasn’t actually teaching what he was hired to teach and he made some really problematic anti-Muslim and racist statements). But it must have been eating him alive that instead of condemning me to hell, the local Christians praised me as ”the most Jesus-like person they had ever met” (a bit awkward, but I do try to live out his command of sacrificial love, because it’s a right thing to do).
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Daimyen

@MidwestMagic Good to hear the input of a sensible Christian. Unfortunately, it’s no longer just Southern Baptists. It’s pretty much everyone calling themselves conservative evangelicals, with some conservative Catholics thrown in the mix. At some point opposing LGBTQ people became the most important thing in their faith.
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commonmage

@Daimyen it's literally so sick
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Daimyen

I think anti-LGBT hate masquerading as ”love” and ”protecting children” is starting to get at me. Clock strikes midnight about now, and I’m still working since some of my students need this stuff sorted out now. I love each and every one of them. But according to politicians and ”Christians”, my very existence as openly gay and transgender teacher damages them in terrible ways and I shoukd stay away.
          
          It’s all so very tiring. And depressing.

Daimyen

@Di_Rossi Thanks. My students have been great this far. It’s just…the overall political climate, I guess. That denying the full humanity of people like me and portraying us as threats to women, children and the entire society is used to gather support - and that it works.
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Di_Rossi

@Daimyen  I'm really, really sorry to hear that you're personally affected by such nonsense. But, this is a time of beliefs rising to the surface and a readjustment of viewpoint on many topic. There are those who are clinging to the past because change scares them, but there are more who are silently reevaluating. 
            
            The best we can do is speak our truth and allow others to speak theirs, even if we radically disagree. Simply the fact that you are willing to put in the effort to speak for hours to your students is having a positive impact...even if it might, at times, not look like it on the surface. Hang in there, it's worth it.  
            
            It may be slightly cliched now, but Ghandi's words are true: be the change you want to see in the world. Be the light. But take care of yourself too. Self care is not a luxury in these times, it's a necessity. :-)
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Daimyen

When I see a fellow LGBTQ person idolizing someone who calls for us to be ”cured” of being who we are…I just know it will end in tears. But it is the human nature that the latest generation has to burn their own wings just like those before them did.
          
          If anybody is reading this, I leave you with an article by a transgender priest, Fr. Shannon Kears: https://www.queertheology.com/evil-kindness/

Daimyen

The first chapter of "Reclaiming Love" is out, with the topic of what the Old Testament actually says about homosexuality. Next: what the New Testament says. I'm hoping to get that (and what the Bible says about gender diversity) written during Pride Month, but since I don't have summer vacation - still trying to patch up stuff after the covid year -, that may take a while.

islandapricots

hiiii, hope you’re doing okay. (:

Daimyen

@islandapricots Hi! Survived the school year, haven't caught covid and got my first vaccine yesterday, so I'd say that's pretty good. There's a ton of work to do during summer to avoid the autumn semester turning into a disaster, though. Higher-ups really should learn that the proper way to react to change isn't "we'll look into that later". I really don't like situations when I have to struggle every evening to have some materials to teach the next day.
            
            How about you?
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islandapricots

Hey! Just wanted to let you know, Joe Biden is the President. We did it, America can finally breathe. 

islandapricots

The free college (or at least heavily reduced) sounds really good. Affordable healthcare would be amazing (especially for prematures), I think in the primaries and in 2024 Gen Z (my generation) will hopefully turn out in huge numbers and make America better. I really hope Biden focus heavily on climate change (green new deal) and education. @Daimyen
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Daimyen

@islandapricots I don’t think USA as a whole was ready for Sanders yet. First the country needs to heal from the chaos caused by Trump. Here’s to hoping that by the next election everyone over there understands that social democracy is a good thing. We have one (free university education, affordable healthcare, paid maternal leave, workers’ rights, etc.) and it’s far from communism. Yeah, everybody probably pays more taxes (mine are around 23% and I have middle class income), but everybody also gets the benefits.
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islandapricots

I WAS SUPER HAPPY THIS MORNING. I cried while I was holding a pot cover and a sponge. I heard my mom gasp, then looked at the TV. That’s when the tears started.
            
            I really hope this whole hateful rhetoric goes away too. I think it will dwindle down soon and people realize their wrong ways. I did hear about Biden being seen as conservative in other countries/continents. I really wish we had Bernie Sanders or Andrew Yang. The far-right has been super scary. @Daimyen
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Daimyen

Logged in to Wattpad to change my password after the news about the data breach and was met with 240 notifications (I may have a few too many books in my library). If your comments or votes for my books or follows were somewhere in there, thank you. If you wanted my attention about something, please leave a message here.
          
          My sister will have a surgery soon (fortunately we live in a welfare state, so no worries about money at least), and the first post-covid school semester is also starting in two weeks (although managed remote learning fairly well, there’s still patching up to do), so I may not check back very often.