DarkestofRoses

          	Hey everyone,
          	
          	I usually try to avoid writing personal stuff on here, but this was perhaps one incident, I just couldn't help but share, before you read this- I would clarify that the purpose of this message is not extend any hatred towards any religion. 
          	
          	Right now, there's a religious event taking place at my home. My family, particularly my mom, is very religious. There are a lot of people– the bards, musicians and devotees. It is, to say the least, a high-energy environment and frankly you never know what the outcome of the aligned energies of dozens of people can be. 
          	
          	I was asked (forced) to sit there for at least 15 minutes before I could escape (my ears can’t take loud noises) but as I sat there drowning in my inner world I couldn't help but rethink my childhood. 
          	As a present atheist, I just sat there remembering how the younger me was more devoted than anyone I’d known. I vaguely remember four or five-year-old me reciting prayers, getting praised, loving something I had never seen or felt.
          	
          	But there’s one incident that’s not so vague. Younger me, till the very end of my religious journey, never wished for a single thing (not even in my head). My mum would say, when I bent down beneath God, "Ask God for whatever you want."You don’t have to believe me, but every time little me would say, "But how is it love if I’m asking Him for something? I love Him unconditionally, and if He loves me, He already knows what I want and He can give me that."My mom would reply, "No, it's okay. You can ask. God's your own." I never did.
          	
          	It just reminds me again and again how we all grew up knowing love. Now, whenever I'm bitter or feeling hatred, I just let those thoughts pass and move around until they fade because that’s not how I was born– knowing hatred and I don’t want the world to take that away from me. I was a  creature born to love, a human, I would like to stay that way. For I'm most afraid when I'm not in love. 
          	
          	
          	Love Love 

dingyyypp

@DarkestofRoses ohh, you told me about this, I just seem to have missed this announcement. And I can't help but relate with you, now that I recall, I didn't ever not believe in god. It was just terms and policy handbook which was handed alongside faith that seriously makes it and for me. Religion as a whole, was never something I didn't believe in, I just slowly started drifting away because of the whole ruled which make me dislike it.
          	  Love is seriously the only thing I like :)  loveeee loveeee, also you're not just any human, you're such a great one. <3 ❤️
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Deathsloved

@DarkestofRoses Accountability in that sense can be construed as a child in limbo of social strata , yearned by conscience, but mostly reared by determinism 
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Deathsloved

@DarkestofRoses Sure. So there is a concept of universalism as well as relativism . For eg. UDHR is a universal maxim embodying declarative document of rights. To say otherwise, would be to deprive it if it's very essence . But European charter of human rights have a specific regional application. So it is a relative approximation of moral  obligations backed by legal sanction. Now brushing aside the effectiveness of both, both instruments are exemplifying that there does exist an argument not only for universality but also cultural normativity. Having found its identification in the international sphere , one would then find its parallel on a myopic scale in nation states and then states and districts and so on and on until even within a family unit . As such ,  how does one stand in any better position by assertion of some universal criteria for accountability unless by denying the first meta maxim that there is no universal maxim. Eventually then one may consider leaving such a circular trap by contemplating self exceptions or societal exceptions acceptable to own conscience but even that conscience is determined in shape and candidness by either conformity of aversion to a person 's culture setting. As such , predisposition arises for universalism or relativism from aversion or conformism despite intelligent awareness , leading to trap again. Trap doesn't exist when arbitrariness flows in , as it must, for eventually the self unable to land anywhere with grace lands inside one's own soul leading to egoistic intelligent design which doesn't stand in other's consideration but own .
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DarkestofRoses

          Hey everyone,
          
          I usually try to avoid writing personal stuff on here, but this was perhaps one incident, I just couldn't help but share, before you read this- I would clarify that the purpose of this message is not extend any hatred towards any religion. 
          
          Right now, there's a religious event taking place at my home. My family, particularly my mom, is very religious. There are a lot of people– the bards, musicians and devotees. It is, to say the least, a high-energy environment and frankly you never know what the outcome of the aligned energies of dozens of people can be. 
          
          I was asked (forced) to sit there for at least 15 minutes before I could escape (my ears can’t take loud noises) but as I sat there drowning in my inner world I couldn't help but rethink my childhood. 
          As a present atheist, I just sat there remembering how the younger me was more devoted than anyone I’d known. I vaguely remember four or five-year-old me reciting prayers, getting praised, loving something I had never seen or felt.
          
          But there’s one incident that’s not so vague. Younger me, till the very end of my religious journey, never wished for a single thing (not even in my head). My mum would say, when I bent down beneath God, "Ask God for whatever you want."You don’t have to believe me, but every time little me would say, "But how is it love if I’m asking Him for something? I love Him unconditionally, and if He loves me, He already knows what I want and He can give me that."My mom would reply, "No, it's okay. You can ask. God's your own." I never did.
          
          It just reminds me again and again how we all grew up knowing love. Now, whenever I'm bitter or feeling hatred, I just let those thoughts pass and move around until they fade because that’s not how I was born– knowing hatred and I don’t want the world to take that away from me. I was a  creature born to love, a human, I would like to stay that way. For I'm most afraid when I'm not in love. 
          
          
          Love Love 

dingyyypp

@DarkestofRoses ohh, you told me about this, I just seem to have missed this announcement. And I can't help but relate with you, now that I recall, I didn't ever not believe in god. It was just terms and policy handbook which was handed alongside faith that seriously makes it and for me. Religion as a whole, was never something I didn't believe in, I just slowly started drifting away because of the whole ruled which make me dislike it.
            Love is seriously the only thing I like :)  loveeee loveeee, also you're not just any human, you're such a great one. <3 ❤️
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Deathsloved

@DarkestofRoses Accountability in that sense can be construed as a child in limbo of social strata , yearned by conscience, but mostly reared by determinism 
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Deathsloved

@DarkestofRoses Sure. So there is a concept of universalism as well as relativism . For eg. UDHR is a universal maxim embodying declarative document of rights. To say otherwise, would be to deprive it if it's very essence . But European charter of human rights have a specific regional application. So it is a relative approximation of moral  obligations backed by legal sanction. Now brushing aside the effectiveness of both, both instruments are exemplifying that there does exist an argument not only for universality but also cultural normativity. Having found its identification in the international sphere , one would then find its parallel on a myopic scale in nation states and then states and districts and so on and on until even within a family unit . As such ,  how does one stand in any better position by assertion of some universal criteria for accountability unless by denying the first meta maxim that there is no universal maxim. Eventually then one may consider leaving such a circular trap by contemplating self exceptions or societal exceptions acceptable to own conscience but even that conscience is determined in shape and candidness by either conformity of aversion to a person 's culture setting. As such , predisposition arises for universalism or relativism from aversion or conformism despite intelligent awareness , leading to trap again. Trap doesn't exist when arbitrariness flows in , as it must, for eventually the self unable to land anywhere with grace lands inside one's own soul leading to egoistic intelligent design which doesn't stand in other's consideration but own .
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Deathsloved

Hello! We probably have never talked before lest my memory runneth contrary but I just couldn't help expressing my admiration which soared to peak, once I encountered your wonderful logical arguments on the message board and how you defended @dingyyypp .
          
          As a person who lives more in abstractions than tangible , I was really surprised to find such an interaction could even exist in this space , much less , so close to me (separated by one common account of a degree of separation) .
          
          In any case, you are an amazing debater , a prolific logician and think really rationally which I just wish to admire , for such rarity deserves so.
          
          I hope I don't come off as too pedantic or intrusive if I wish to ask whether I can ask for your indulgence in more such like concerns, just for its own ends , even when not induced by any such causes , for discussion?
          
          I have a keen sense that you have much to offer for expanding my existing knowledge system by your insights and way of putting things? 
          
          Naturally, I shall also do the same if you wish and find me of equivalent worth or as open minded individual necessary for such kind of discussion to take place? 
          
          Do let me know.
          
          And once again, congratulations on being such a good student and person endowed with capabilities and will to translate own knowledge for pragmatic wisdom which complements and assuages rest of humans .
          
          ...
          
          

Deathsloved

@DarkestofRoses sure sure. We are all learners in life (cliche but still) . Anyway, even more impressive then.
            
            I will surely check it out . Cool
            
            
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DarkestofRoses

@dingyyypp I'm short on words dude T-T, appreciate it truly! 
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dingyyypp

Hey! Omg, thank you so much for covering feminism and the contradictions about it! I loved the way you put it and would love more from you on that book!
          Also, this sounds so formal like we've never even talked about hearing your family say that they wish you die because they think you're in a coma, I know we haven't but anyways!!! Happy new year in advance!! ❤️❤️

DarkestofRoses

@dingyyypp No it's okayy, I totally understand <3 
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DarkestofRoses

Hey everyone, 
          
          After a long period of feeling drained, I’m officially back in my "zone" lol. I’ve started working on a chapter for my book "You said be quiet, I wrote this ", which is basically a mix of social issues, philosophy, political ideologies and just a sprinkle of psychology. 
          
          If anyone has ideas.. topics, debates (no international politics, I'm still a novice there) , fun psychological theories, or political concepts, drop them here! I'd absolutely love to explore and discuss them in the chapter.
          
          Also, this would probably be my most advanced chapter, (At least I'm very proud of this one). 
          
          My message board is open for any discussions too :) 
          
          Feel free to share!!
          
          
          Love Love 
          
          

DarkestofRoses

@zolo1611 Thank you sooo muchhh really for taking out the time to write all that!!! <3 I reallyyy appreciate itt smmmm, I'm gonna write about it soon.
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zolo1611

@DarkestofRoses finally what is shocking is the fact that at present we dont even have able leaders who can actually comprehend the pulse and demands of the youth. the situation tbh is very dire. if we compare it what we had during the 70s (karpoori thakur, george fernandes, jp narayan etc.) it's very dejectful. hope i made myself clear (i have been writing since the past 10 minutes T_T)
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DarkestofRoses

          "It’s a million times easier to be with someone you love under difficult circumstances than to be comfortably with someone you don’t love enough."
          
          I think I learned this after meeting Arsheen. I’m not a PDA kind of person, but this girl loves me so much that it has altered my perception to a great extent. Mind you, I was the kind of person who believed that long-distance‐especially platonic-could NEVER work, and I always wondered why someone would want something so inconvenient when it’s already hard enough to keep people who are ‘close’ close enough.
          But so much has changed since then...
          
          The day I met her, I never thought it would lead to anything at all (she didn’t either). Why would anyone go nuts over an online person, right? But now she’s the girl who never misses a chance to call me...even when she’s busy, even when it’s hard. She has college, so much work to do, and the option to choose something or someone much easier than me, yet she still finds every little second she can to connect with me.
          
           Those little snaps, those random unfinished conversations in the metro, waking me up with her ringtone, staying up to call me the day before her exams, listening to me sleep-talk, sleeping at 2 AM because our conversations are too good…
          I remember this one time when I was really upset with her, and the first thing she said was that she couldn’t be without me and that she would do anything. I told her, ‘I know I’m upset right now, but I love you too much to leave you ever.’
          
          I’ve never known it this deeply until now-thanks to her. You know you’re in love when you want the inconvenience that comes with that person, rather than love without them. When that person becomes irreplaceable simply because of who they are and how you two work together, beyond anything you can “get” from each other.
          
          So, to anyone out there who might be questioning it... love can work out under crazy circumstances. 
          
            Touchwood*
          @summer_sunflower_00
          
          Love Love Everyone, 

zolo1611

@DarkestofRoses that's so sweet of you! i would absolutley love to be friends with you <3 thanks a ton
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DarkestofRoses

@zolo1611  you've found the "right" place  then perhaps ,I absolutely love discussing philosophical ideas and social structures, I'm all ears whenever you have an idea on your mind, do spill those here :)) 
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DarkestofRoses

                                 
                                           Foolin' Around? 
          
          
          V1- I don't know where you're looking, and it's better if I not 
          draw flowchars on my tablet, I've got compulsions oh my god 
          I don't know where this going really, and maybe it's better if I not 
          track predictions like an analyst, since my data could be flawed 
          
          
          V2- A little freaky I figured, I'm sorry for catching those micro- expressions (uh-uhm) 
          Studied you more than I should've, thanks to you now I've got consequences (oh no) 
          One thing that goes down, drowns the memories of all the high things oh (yeah-uh) 
          I guess I figured but I like to go with the worst possible scenarios (my bad) 
          
          
          
          PC- I lock my heart and hide the key 
          cause baby‐
          even thinking about you,
          feels like too much lately
          
          I churn my tears to drink this feeling 
          cause baby‐
          You're on my mind, 
          Like an unfinished series
          
          I know no medicine to wash this out 
          Oh baby-
          You're not just any drug,
          But an addiction really
          
          
          C- Oh baby,
          Are you gonna make a fool outta me?
          (See Ive already been stupid enough)
          Are you gonna flip me over like anythin'?
          (Then pretend you haven't been lookin')
          Are you lovin' the way you're fooling? 
          (Such a fool you've made me, oh love) 
          
          
          Bridge- Near the staircase I stood, start of 
          May 
          Never knew I'd be replaying, oh that very 
          day 
          I hate that I noticed, caught your fixated 
          gaze 
          It didn't matter then, until mid of August
          I'd say 
          
          
          C- Oh baby,
          Are you gonna make a fool outta me?
          (See I've already been stupid enough)
          Are you gonna flip me over like anythin'?
          (Then pretend you haven't been lookin')
          Are you lovin' the way you're fooling? 
          (Such a fool you've made me, oh love) 
          
          
          Love Love 
          

DarkestofRoses

@zolo1611 Thank you so much, I'm so glad you liked it  T-T 
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zolo1611

@DarkestofRoses that's such a lovely song lyrics <3 how would you even write them? im really in awe. god bless you.
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Lan_Liny

@DarkestofRoses don't worry about it! If you ever think of actually playing and singing them I'd love to hear it 
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DarkestofRoses

                 
                                    Into You (Autumn Leaves) 
          
          
          
          V1- You're the book I open but I don't know what page to choose 
          The way at times, almost differently, each chapter speaks to you 
          So close, the seat you chose when you didn't even have to choose?
          Feels like I've got too much on the line to lose,I hate being into you 
          
          
          V2- You're the flame that extinguishes right before it burns 
          The way at times, you're healed, before you're hurt enough 
          So funny, the tilts of your chair, words you'd like me to hear?
          Feels like I've got some grounds to measure what's sincere 
          
          
          PC- Love, you're close to me, but not close 
          enough
          Like the whispering crackle of the autumn 
          leaves 
          Love, you're far away, but not far enough to disappear 
          Like the wind that touches in ways one 
          can't see 
          
          
          C- I love how you're into me (Maybe)
             But I hate how it feels being into you 
            Cause I never know what to do(Really)
             I've always been too much in control 
          
          
          
          PC- And how it feels*2 , I-I can't comprehend too well 
          And how it feels*2, Uh-I-I read 
          into things too much 
          (Love, I don't know what to trust)
          (So embarrassing)
          (Love, oh were you even really there?)
          (So, apocryphal)
          
          
          C- I love how you're into me (Maybe)
             But I hate how it feels being into you 
            Cause I never know what to do(Really)
             I've always been too much in control 
          
          
          
          Love Love 

DarkestofRoses

Honestly..., I thought about making one, but I decided against it because I was afraid it'd flop. T-T (I have like hundreds of songs written atp) 
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dingyyypp

@DarkestofRoses by now, shouldn't you have a songbook?
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DarkestofRoses

Hey everyone, 
          This is a really personal song. For someone as guarded as me, even in terms of my writing, sharing this feels like growth. I hope it hits!! :) 
               
          
          
                                          Abundant L.O.V.E 
          
          
          V1- I've been drawing some stars around my scars lately 
          Would be kinda sweet to have somebody kiss em really 
          Guess I need no medicine, just love as deep as my scars 
          That doesn't fade away when there's no light of the day 
          
          V2- When I look beyond compatability, it's responsibility, I see
          Kinda hard to find, both flames and firewood, near one tree 
          And since I'm a burning flame, a drowning wave, I collide 
          To know, I'd shatter, cause my stars 
          seem to unlikely, to align 
          
          PC- I find love in all places 
                  But how it feels to have 
                  Just one heart aligned 
                   I might never know 
          
                  I can't settle in nice place 
                   A place who isn't home 
                    Got no nomadic desires 
                    But I might adopt
          
                  I think of mimicking em 
                   But that ain't who I am 
                   It doesn't fill me up 
                    And I'm empty still 
          So I..
          
                 -
          
          C- Try to love like me
               To bump into a love like mine 
               Try to touch a heart 
               To give it all the love I've got 
               The love you want 
               Is the kinda love you give to all 
          
          
          Bridge- (A-bundance, A-bundance, A-a-a yeah-uh-uhm)
          Would you get it*2  (tell me) or would you not? 
          (A-romatic, A-romantic, A-a-a, yeah-da-uh-m)
          Oh you love me dear*2(tell me) or would you not?
          
          
          C- Try to love like me
               To bump into a love like mine 
               Try to touch a heart 
               To give it all the love I've got 
               The love you want 
               Is the kinda love you give to all....
          
          Love Love 
          

DarkestofRoses

@zolo1611 Aw thank you sm, I would love to expand on any line/verse , if you're curious <3 
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zolo1611

@DarkestofRoses this feels so deep. not even sure if i get it completely.
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