Den12122

Wow, not even subtle, "pretty poison - e. moskowitz" first three chapters of real 'content' are just copy pasted from the first season of the show verbatim, like carbon copies. And people on this thread wondered why there's any 'pigeon holing' these fics into the same genre.

maneatxr

hi! I totally get what you mean in your movement or whatever it is to collect the stories and I understand what it is: but also fanfiction is not plagiarism if your just using the TV show to reference it and people just do it for fun. it's a carbon copy to the show because people are just writing for fun.And sometimes coming up with an outside storyline isn't fun. you're gonna read all the fan fictions of Cobra. Kai, except they're all going to be like the show, because people are all referencing the same piece of media and just using the show. that's in every fan fiction, ever, basically, unless they're using their own storyline, which not everybody wants to do. for example, some people write fan fiction for fun and don't care about how closely related it is to the show. like, for example, I just wrote mine for myself. And added an oc I thought would be interesting in there and my book just happened to get popular - which motivated me to keep writing about it rather than just keeping it in my head, cause people enjoyed it. if using media for fan fiction was plagiarism, it would be illegal to write fan fiction. if you don't want something that sounds exactly like the media, they're referencing or involving.Then, you should look for an AU book and not a book following the seasons. like I said, I get what you mean and everything but I think you're forgetting that fan fiction is for fun and authors don't owe you anything to make it different from the show. if you want something different from the show, then unfortunately you're going to have to write it yourself otherwise than just don't read the books. Because I feel like you don't enjoy them. If you're just gonna add them to a list and forever, forget about them. 

maneatxr

@maneatxr like fanfiction is just for fun and writers just do it for fun. That's why it's all similar to the media. and if I find too many books that follow the same storyline and I don't like it, then I just don't read them. That's all
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Den12122

Wow, not even subtle, "pretty poison - e. moskowitz" first three chapters of real 'content' are just copy pasted from the first season of the show verbatim, like carbon copies. And people on this thread wondered why there's any 'pigeon holing' these fics into the same genre.

Den12122

Apparently it's so hard to "incorporate characters" but it'd probably be a lot easier if people wouldn't just copy every line of dialogue straight from the show for every chapter like the very *first* fanfic I see listed (7 things - Robby Keene). Yeah.

Den12122

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As listed already on my profile there is no 'pigeon holing' or 'asshole' ness from this legitimate constructive criticism, I aim for quality fanfics on this site like any other (wow shocking on Wattpad I know) and will hold any I read to that standard.
          
          Cobra Kai had heart and originality and comedy, anything this fics write that is remotely 'original' tends to be derivative rom com stuff. And people are shocked in the comments here thinking I just 'pigeon hole' and read the description, no I check the first few and last few chapters always to see if anything improves or if they come up with original plotlines that are *new* and *good*....
          
          Spoilers, anything I do find. There aren't. Only two fanfics that appeared like these 'thirst' fics at first actually tended to be decently, quality, creative fics were about Kwon Jae-Sung. They weren't the best but they were actually decent. So yeah.

maneatxr

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@Den12122 this isnt constructive criticism tho when you are in fact not reading them.. example some of the books u added arent even cobra kai or follow the show at all.. or even have more than 5 chapters... plus u cant just read the beginning and end and expect new stuff everytime. ive read ck books with the same beginning and end but the entire middle is new and different. you are in fact just being an asshole and dogging on people writing for no reason. we dont write for you, writers write these for fun and themselves. if you want a quality book then pay me and you'll get one. but i dont see you with an original cobra kai book on your page and until you've written one- you have no write to complain about quality when you aren't searching for it but rather wanting a reason to whine
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Den12122

Last fanfic I read 'Paper Rings' had the first two chaps include dialogue verbatim from the Cobra Kai show. There is no originality there, if you're just copy pasting the plot and then adding a plotline aside where the mc/self insert/oc just falls in love with the mc there's no creativity/writing quality or originality there. Fanfiction requires both the 'fan' aspect of writing where you take elements from the original show, and the 'fiction' where you create your own story that actually differs from the events of the original show/medium you adapt and gives readers something interesting and of note.
          
          There's nothing here but thirst for the mcs from the Cobra Kai show, these are basically just thirst-fics. The most recent chapter as well just had the main characters interact the exact same way like they already did in the show, might as well watch the original show but every few minutes pause the show and imagine there's a famous actor you pretend yourself to be have one of the mcs (Tory/Hawk/Robby/Miguel etc...) fall in love with them off screen. Same thing, no difference.

The__Trashman__

@ Den12122  I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say, but most fanfictions that include OCs are different from the typical fanfiction where it's two characters from the original show being paired up. In those, it's standard for the content to be original. In the fanfics you speak about, following the show is the standard and expected, which includes dialogue and scenes from the show. The fiction aspect here is the original character and a storyline they have in addition to the show, which is original content.
            
            I agree that there are plenty of writers who copy the show without that element and just give some lines to their character, but a lot of the fics that I have seen in your list have that original content.
            
            But please, correct me if I'm misunderstanding your point. I would very much like to understand how you see it 
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graciesfilm

no hate but just so you know fanfics tend to follow the story that they’re based on because the writer likes a show and wanted to add to it :) there’s no need for hate and to put people’s work down because it follows along with a story when that’s exactly what they set out to do. I’d recommend actually reading the stories before putting them into a list like that and going into it positively cause I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised by people’s “paper thin” characters :) 

graciesfilm

@Den12122 | I just mean that when someone’s book is added it comes across as hate because for the most part everyone who writes a book for ck is adding their own spin to the show and is working hard to create the world with the incorporation of their character which honestly can be really tricky. so, it does come across a bit hateful for everything to just be pigeon holed before given the chance to set itself apart :)
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Den12122

@svnsetcrve i don't think this is hate, i think it's constructive criticism i believe I covered that on my profile
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Den12122

@svnsetcrve hii no hate either :) but the genre of fanfics I've added to the lists are all the same. there's a difference between writing a fanfiction for a story and plagiarizing it, it's just that those fics tend to exist of a higher quality outside of wattpad. so the 'yass queen slay' attitude in wattpad is a whole lot more common so fic quality is higher outside this site. ck's fics here exist within that bubble, so when I find fics like for instance a rare one here on this site that doesn't just copy ck's dialogue word for word every single chapter for every character, I don't add it :)
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The__Trashman__

I'm not trying to be rude, especially because other people have been messaging you about this, but what's the deal with this list? It seems like you're just adding everything labeled Cobra Kai to this list. I'm not claiming my writing is anywhere near perfect because I write as a hobby, not a profession, but what's the point of just adding fics to this list instead of actually reading or in the case you do read the fics, contacting the writer to talk about what you feel is "wrong" with their work?
          
          I'd actually really like some tips, but a list like this just feels like putting people's work down. 

vampfilmz

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i think youre forgetting that people are not paid to write fanfics… they do it on their own free time because they enjoy writing things for others. adding them to a list where you insult their writing/ocs is rly shitty ! its not “constructive criticism” its just you being an asshole : /