Den12122

Wow, not even subtle, "pretty poison - e. moskowitz" first three chapters of real 'content' are just copy pasted from the first season of the show verbatim, like carbon copies. And people on this thread wondered why there's any 'pigeon holing' these fics into the same genre.

Den12122

Wow, not even subtle, "pretty poison - e. moskowitz" first three chapters of real 'content' are just copy pasted from the first season of the show verbatim, like carbon copies. And people on this thread wondered why there's any 'pigeon holing' these fics into the same genre.

Den12122

Apparently it's so hard to "incorporate characters" but it'd probably be a lot easier if people wouldn't just copy every line of dialogue straight from the show for every chapter like the very *first* fanfic I see listed (7 things - Robby Keene). Yeah.

Den12122

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As listed already on my profile there is no 'pigeon holing' or 'asshole' ness from this legitimate constructive criticism, I aim for quality fanfics on this site like any other (wow shocking on Wattpad I know) and will hold any I read to that standard.
          
          Cobra Kai had heart and originality and comedy, anything this fics write that is remotely 'original' tends to be derivative rom com stuff. And people are shocked in the comments here thinking I just 'pigeon hole' and read the description, no I check the first few and last few chapters always to see if anything improves or if they come up with original plotlines that are *new* and *good*....
          
          Spoilers, anything I do find. There aren't. Only two fanfics that appeared like these 'thirst' fics at first actually tended to be decently, quality, creative fics were about Kwon Jae-Sung. They weren't the best but they were actually decent. So yeah.

Den12122

Last fanfic I read 'Paper Rings' had the first two chaps include dialogue verbatim from the Cobra Kai show. There is no originality there, if you're just copy pasting the plot and then adding a plotline aside where the mc/self insert/oc just falls in love with the mc there's no creativity/writing quality or originality there. Fanfiction requires both the 'fan' aspect of writing where you take elements from the original show, and the 'fiction' where you create your own story that actually differs from the events of the original show/medium you adapt and gives readers something interesting and of note.
          
          There's nothing here but thirst for the mcs from the Cobra Kai show, these are basically just thirst-fics. The most recent chapter as well just had the main characters interact the exact same way like they already did in the show, might as well watch the original show but every few minutes pause the show and imagine there's a famous actor you pretend yourself to be have one of the mcs (Tory/Hawk/Robby/Miguel etc...) fall in love with them off screen. Same thing, no difference.

The__Trashman__

@ Den12122  I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say, but most fanfictions that include OCs are different from the typical fanfiction where it's two characters from the original show being paired up. In those, it's standard for the content to be original. In the fanfics you speak about, following the show is the standard and expected, which includes dialogue and scenes from the show. The fiction aspect here is the original character and a storyline they have in addition to the show, which is original content.
            
            I agree that there are plenty of writers who copy the show without that element and just give some lines to their character, but a lot of the fics that I have seen in your list have that original content.
            
            But please, correct me if I'm misunderstanding your point. I would very much like to understand how you see it 
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graciesfilm

no hate but just so you know fanfics tend to follow the story that they’re based on because the writer likes a show and wanted to add to it :) there’s no need for hate and to put people’s work down because it follows along with a story when that’s exactly what they set out to do. I’d recommend actually reading the stories before putting them into a list like that and going into it positively cause I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised by people’s “paper thin” characters :) 

graciesfilm

@Den12122 | I just mean that when someone’s book is added it comes across as hate because for the most part everyone who writes a book for ck is adding their own spin to the show and is working hard to create the world with the incorporation of their character which honestly can be really tricky. so, it does come across a bit hateful for everything to just be pigeon holed before given the chance to set itself apart :)
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Den12122

@svnsetcrve i don't think this is hate, i think it's constructive criticism i believe I covered that on my profile
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Den12122

@svnsetcrve hii no hate either :) but the genre of fanfics I've added to the lists are all the same. there's a difference between writing a fanfiction for a story and plagiarizing it, it's just that those fics tend to exist of a higher quality outside of wattpad. so the 'yass queen slay' attitude in wattpad is a whole lot more common so fic quality is higher outside this site. ck's fics here exist within that bubble, so when I find fics like for instance a rare one here on this site that doesn't just copy ck's dialogue word for word every single chapter for every character, I don't add it :)
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The__Trashman__

I'm not trying to be rude, especially because other people have been messaging you about this, but what's the deal with this list? It seems like you're just adding everything labeled Cobra Kai to this list. I'm not claiming my writing is anywhere near perfect because I write as a hobby, not a profession, but what's the point of just adding fics to this list instead of actually reading or in the case you do read the fics, contacting the writer to talk about what you feel is "wrong" with their work?
          
          I'd actually really like some tips, but a list like this just feels like putting people's work down. 

vampfilmz

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i think youre forgetting that people are not paid to write fanfics… they do it on their own free time because they enjoy writing things for others. adding them to a list where you insult their writing/ocs is rly shitty ! its not “constructive criticism” its just you being an asshole : /

KitHatake

Hey, 
          Just let people write fanfics, it’s not hurting anyone. You say in a reply that it’s meant as constructive criticism, but what about your bio is constructive? Some of the books you added to the reading list have barely begun, how can you judge a book by only one chapter? All you are doing is making people feel bad about a story that they are just writing for fun. There is no need for this negativity. 

-peachyferrari

You adding my fic to your list makes me laugh. I hope you do some re-evaluating because you may not have noticed that my fic that you added to your list isn’t set in the KKU rather a crossover between the cast and athletes of a specific sport. I hope you read through all of these fics instead of just judging them based on their titles and summaries ❤️