quirkstan

@FrolenZan I’m planning a RWBY x MHA crossover. I’m telling you because from what I’ve scene from your discussions with farmerabe, you’ve got a pretty good understanding on the series and its flaws and missed potential. I’m open to any kind of guidance so I can deliver the best possible content for readers to enjoy,
          
          I want to create something that honours the early energy of RWBY whilst adding in the storytelling and moral lessons of My Hero Academia. Please chat with me on my profile when you can. Thank you.

quirkstan

@FrolenZan Sorry, sorry! Can I least ask what your opinion on Adam’s projected slashes and their usefulness is?
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FrolenZan

@quirkstan dumped alot on me all at once. How about we take it one at a time. What you've presented is fine.
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quirkstan

4. Something that always confused me in RWBY was Adam seemingly cloning himself with his Semblance, like how does that work. But then I realised that sometimes, these “clones don’t attack” and that Adam uses an afterimage technique that we’ve seen Ozpin use in canon when he fought Cinder.
            
            Here’s my theory, the reason Adam’s clones are able to attack is because they’re not really clones. Rather, they’re projections of his Semblance which he manifests as clones. Moonslice works by Adam storing energy through his sword, and then sends it back when he's ready. Energy can change shape, this is known as conversion. While the total amount of energy remains constant—it cannot be created or destroyed. 
            
            My theory is that Adam uses the afterimage technique in tandem with his Semblance to disguise his slashes that happen to take his form. Aura is a manifestation of the soul, right? So, there’s a chance Adam took this idea to shape his Aura into himself.
            
            This is more clever than most people think. Instead of sending out one slash per charge, Adam turns a single release of energy into multiple "entities." The power output is divided and weakened as a result, but it makes up for it in numbers. Forcing the opponent to defend against several angles at once, even though Adam only swung once. Adam’s also able to follow through with his attacks by using a “clone” to “occupy” a space in the gap between him and his opponents. Whilst they believe they’re fighting the real Adam, can follow-up whilst his opponent is open to an attack.
            It also serves as a form of psychological pressure. If Adam’s able to send these projected slashes and uses the afterimage technique on its own, you can’t tell which is which.
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quirkstan

@FrolenZan Hi! I remember you asking for a good Yang x Jaune fic when chatting on farmerabe’s conversation board. I have one here for you:
          https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13103788/1/Lost-Rose
          It’s not a central ship, but it’s pretty good.

AgentEagleIsGone

Hello again. It's been a while since our last chat, and today I wanted to talk about something a little different. 
          
          Lately, farmerabe and I have been talking about powerscaling and the effect that it can have on stories, particularly crossovers, and I wanted to know your thoughts on it. Do you think that powerscaling (in the sense of planetary scaling or wall level feats, for instance) can have a place in the story or no? We think it doesn't, but I'd like your input on the matter.

FrolenZan

@AgentEagleIsGone I’ll be honest, power scaling is a lazy way to denote power to characters. It’s easy, exploitable, and sadly it taints whatever story it’s implemented in. The issue being power creep, the introduction of new has to be stronger than the previous. When building proper power scaling mechanics, a lot of factors have to be carefully considered.
            
            Scale of Destruction, Scale of Effect, Scale of Feat, etc. you get the picture. The trick to managing proper power scaling is have a definitive ceiling, and measure how the protagonist will reach that ceiling. My favorite example of this was a manga called History’s strongest Disciple Kenichi.
            
            The main character is set up from the get go that he has absolutely no amount of talent when it comes to marital arts. His own masters repeatedly tell him that if they trained someone with a scrap of more talent than him, they would be way stronger than him.
            
            What he does have is a drive to work hard. Anyway, one of his masters is the literal strongest man in the world The invincible Superman Furinji Hayato. 
            
            Furinji Hayato is the ceiling Kenichi has to get to. Anything under that ceiling is a level Kenichi has to overcome. Point being Furinji Hayato was the first master Kenichi met before he began his journey. The story introduced the ceiling (Hayato) and the floor(Kenichi). So long as everything is contained within that space, powerscaling can be managed properly.
            
            However it’s not something I recommend, I gave that example because it can be done, but more often than not power scaling is just plain annoying.
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farmerabe

Hi, I'm back.
          
          I'm still not entirely sold on the idea of Ozpin being GMC's version of Salem.
          
          But maybe talking through the events of GMC 1 with this in mind will help with this- especially since I need to plan out all the Grimm Jaune will encounter.
          
          What say you?

FrolenZan

@farmerabe nothing wrong with that.
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farmerabe

@FrolenZan But at that point, since the Blacksmith is connected to the tree, wouldn't that just be akin to Mundus killing the King of Hell and usurping that title for his own?
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farmerabe

You know, I've been thinking, and hear me out-
          
          What if Jaune and Adam don't end up fighting Watts in GMC 3?
          
          (I'm posting this here because I don't want anyone to see potential spoilers)

FrolenZan

@farmerabe sure, you can count on that.
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farmerabe

@FrolenZan In any case, feel free to be brutally honest with how well or poorly I handled the chapter when I get it out.
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AgentEagleIsGone

Hello again. It's been a while since we last talked, and I have another question I want to ask you regarding Blake again. I was chatting with @farmerabe about how I could improve Blake's character for a fanfiction I was writing. Namely, I wanted to change her character to be a little more tolerable because I find the way that she was written in canon to be severely flawed, but he said that it would be difficult to do because I would essentially be replacing Blake with an OC that mimics her appearance if I altered her too much. I'm fine with breaking her worldview if that's required, but I want to know if it's possible for me to at least make her less insufferable before that point, or if I'm doomed to keep her as is.

FrolenZan

@AgentEagleIsGone Depends, you’d have to alter her back story. Abe is right however, if you do too much she won’t be Blake. The Best you can do is justify her changes, and that starts with her backstory.
            
            Take the traits you want to instill in her, and craft an explanation as to why she is the way she is. You don’t need to show her back story to the audience. In fact, keep it to yourself and use it to guide her writing.
            
            It also depends on what kind of story you’re planning to tell with her.
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AgentEagleIsGone

Thank you for your insight. I appreciate getting the chance to hear your opinion on the matter.

farmerabe

@FrolenZan And people wonder why I use Adam to address the racism subplot.
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FrolenZan

@AgentEagleIsGone Anytime. I’ll leave you with this. Ghira doesn’t necessarily need to die for Blake to learn a lesson, but it’s more plot significance and tragic for the story. Blake is literally the only character in team RWBY who’s never suffered. She is so spoiled that she’s taken for granted how blessed she is. 
            
            Ruby and Yang lost Summer, and Yang had to practically raise Ruby when her father was broken. Yang was abandoned by Raven. Weiss came from a household so toxic her own father treats his family like a monetary asset, Her mother a neglectful drunk, her sister left her to join the military, and her brother is left to the mercy of her Father. Nora and Ren are Orphans, Pyrrha has had her life stolen by publicity and celebrity life, and Jaune had to break away from his family because they had no hope in him (mind you this is speculation, but he was desperate enough to run away because he desperately wanted to achieve his dream). While his choices weren’t smart, his desire to help all people is what endears him to so many fans.
            
            What the hell did Blake suffer through that wasn’t her own choice. Both her parents are alive, they own a mansion in a tropical island, her father is the chieftain, the rebel group she joined, to support Faunus rights of course, but her parents had that handled. Stayed when they became extreme against her parents warnings. Ran away when things started getting too real. Yet constantly berates the Fang who actually suffered, and scolds the humans who’ve been hurt by the fang.
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AgentEagleIsGone

Yeah, putting it into words helps me actually see how wrong Blake was (not that I didn't see it before), but I feel like this boils down to another problem with the story; Blake's character (and the character of all of the protagonists, for that matter) are horrendously written. Blake is an especially bad case, given how her character in retrospect has been complete shite since Volume 1. The story constantly bends over backwards to ensure she's always in the right when she shouldn't be, and she has a serious victim complex. The reason why this is a problem is because, when Blake is like this, it's impossible to root for her. Its really not a good sign when we have to resort to killing her dad to actually get a point through her skull,and when that takes five volumes to actually happen, you end up with a protagonist few people are going to root for and nobody is going to like. I'm not against humbling her, but I feel like her character needs to be rewritten her her to be someone the audience would even be willing to tolerate for an extended period of time, much less root for. And when you do that, it lessens the need to humble Blake and her father dying comes off as unnecessary.

FrolenZan

@farmerabe that’s ultimately what angers me about bumblebee. That just because they’re lesbians is all the reason to put them together. That girls just can’t be friends without major sexual tension, or that Lesbian or not a women is more than just their sexuality.
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farmerabe

@FrolenZan Again, well said.
            
            It's like being the same gender somehow makes a relationship good, despite its many, MANY flaws these days...
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AgentEagleIsGone

Howdy. I'm a friend of Farmer Abe, and I was curious on your opinion of Blake from RWBY. We are currently in the process of discussing how we would rewrite our character, and Farmer Abe said you would be able to explain the problems with Vlake's character pretty well.

farmerabe

@FrolenZan Yep.
            
            Something needs to shatter this viewpoint, and while Ghira's death is not required, it DOES take a pretty big sledgehammer to Blake's worldview.
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FrolenZan

@farmerabe Like we stated before, Ghiras death isn't necessary, but it's a perfect catalyst to shift Blake's moronic sense of thinking. She's never suffered significant lost, she constantly runs away from her problems, and when her stance is questioned, it's F everybody else I'm right you're wrong. 
            
            For goodness sake, she called the white fang misguided despite all the terrorist attacks. Not because she cares about the faunus, but because admitting that the white fang are monsters, is admitting that she as an ex fang was just as much a monster as well.
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farmerabe

@FrolenZan Well said, man.
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