GeneralVortex06

My rewrite of the Knights of Ren: 
          	They are a Dark side cult, but differentiate from the Sith in several key things: The members are genuinely loyal to each other, with Kylo Ren seeing the other members as a brotherhood. 
          	They wish to change the Galaxy for their own twisted version of good. Removing the Jedi, Republic and the last of the Sith's legacy to create something new, believing this will help the Galaxy move on and prepare it from all dangers, both internal and those in the unknown region. 
          	While they are against the Jedi and Sith, they do admire Revan for seemingly using the dark side of the force to protect the Galaxy from a bigger evil. 
          	Kylo Ren still looks up to Vader, but more so because of the order Vader brought to the Galaxy rather than out of any approval of Sith ideology. 
          	The Knights of Ren shown in my version of the Sequel Trilogy, including Kylo, were Jedi younglings kidnapped by the original leader of the Knights of Ren, who brought them up harshly but out of wanting to make them perfect warriors than promoting hatred and distrust between each other. In the end, Kylo Ren would see the old Knights of Ren leader as imperfect for leading the Order, and kills him. He also only works under Snoke to gain more power and knowledge, and his end goal was always to kill Snoke and take over the First Order to try and mold it to what he and his Knights want. 
          	Anyways, that's my idea for them, to make them more interesting and to differentiate them from the Sith.

Olympiatookmysoul

ALL THEY HAD TO DO, WAS ADAPT EITHER LEGACY OF THE FORCE, OR THE LEGACY COMICS! 
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GeneralVortex06

My rewrite of the Knights of Ren: 
          They are a Dark side cult, but differentiate from the Sith in several key things: The members are genuinely loyal to each other, with Kylo Ren seeing the other members as a brotherhood. 
          They wish to change the Galaxy for their own twisted version of good. Removing the Jedi, Republic and the last of the Sith's legacy to create something new, believing this will help the Galaxy move on and prepare it from all dangers, both internal and those in the unknown region. 
          While they are against the Jedi and Sith, they do admire Revan for seemingly using the dark side of the force to protect the Galaxy from a bigger evil. 
          Kylo Ren still looks up to Vader, but more so because of the order Vader brought to the Galaxy rather than out of any approval of Sith ideology. 
          The Knights of Ren shown in my version of the Sequel Trilogy, including Kylo, were Jedi younglings kidnapped by the original leader of the Knights of Ren, who brought them up harshly but out of wanting to make them perfect warriors than promoting hatred and distrust between each other. In the end, Kylo Ren would see the old Knights of Ren leader as imperfect for leading the Order, and kills him. He also only works under Snoke to gain more power and knowledge, and his end goal was always to kill Snoke and take over the First Order to try and mold it to what he and his Knights want. 
          Anyways, that's my idea for them, to make them more interesting and to differentiate them from the Sith.

Olympiatookmysoul

ALL THEY HAD TO DO, WAS ADAPT EITHER LEGACY OF THE FORCE, OR THE LEGACY COMICS! 
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Olympiatookmysoul

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An dumb Idea for what happened with Salam in the Jedi Adam universe.
          
          *many, MANY years ago*
          
          Darth Traya: The hell happened? Why do you have his Ship?
          
          Darth Sion: Cheap Wizzard, no wonder people are always stabbing him in the back! 
          
          Traya: SION! Answer the Kriffing question!!
          
          Sion: I asked for a fair days pay after a fair days work. Then he, kind of got a little angry. So I admit, I kind of got a little angry.
          
          Traya: Did you kill him?
          
          Sion: WHAT KIND OF ANIMAL DO YOU TAKE ME FOR?! NO I DID’T KILL HIM!
          
          Traya: Oh kriff.
          
          Sion: *Pulling a gagged and bound Salam from the ship* BUT I DID KIDNAP HIS WIFE!
          
          Traya: OH NO!
          
          Darth Nihlus: Soooo… you want me to do my thing and clean this up?
          
          Traya: Dose it look like we have a choice?

Olympiatookmysoul

Hey yo. Saw the new fic you posted, loved every second of it! 
          Been trying to work on my Jedi Adam fic. Also trying to pick up where I left off on CSR. 
          
          I’ve also been think about re-structuring the whole thing to be a series instead of one single fic, with two separate stories happening at the same time and lightly interacting with each other, in this case, Gabriel and Adam’s brothers at war story being one book, and Levi and Jacks  Excellent Paramilitary Adventure being another, before the two storylines meet up in one big sexy fic to wrap the whole story up. Thoughts?
           

Olympiatookmysoul

@GeneralVortex06 
            Perhaps, I haven’t quite figured out a timeline for the story yet. But it will divert from cannon. The idea I’m going for is that Adam fights at the Battle of Jabiim (Yes, I will be mixing Cannon and Legends here) gets severely injured, and is in a comma for several months. While in his comma he fights off his inner darkness and is knighted not long after he wakes up. (Just after season 1 of TCW) The 585th is formed. I was thinking there first mission would be a recon threat assessment of Death Watch?  I think against an Operation Nimrod reference as the first assignment mainly due to the fact the real operation was pretty much executed flawlessly,  dosn’t really read like a mission where the team is still figuring things out. 
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GeneralVortex06

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@Olympiatookmysoul Oh shit, is Adam and his Regiment going to have an Iranian Embassy Siege-like moment? If so, that would be cool. Maybe it could be Adam's first mission alone with the regiment?
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Olympiatookmysoul

@GeneralVortex06 
            It’s cool. And I agree. I’ll probably change the title of the book I have out once I think of a name.
            
            As for my Star Wars one, been working on the prologue, I’ve added a few tweaks to the story. (Dartg Nero (You remember him?) has been removed and then re-added to the story around 4 times before I found a good backstory and use in the plot for for him.)  Also I finally figured out on what kind of command Adam would get when Knighted. The 585th Special Operations Regiment. They will essentially be the Star Wars equivalent to the SAS. 
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Olympiatookmysoul

Hey, how are you doing?

Olympiatookmysoul

@GeneralVortex06 
            Yeesh, good luck with that man. I just wrapped up my semester. Collage classes has been eating up most of my time this year.
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GeneralVortex06

@Olympiatookmysoul Good. Currently busy with A Levels so that's taking up my time at the moment
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GeneralVortex06

Since Star Wars Shadow Lord have made the Inquisitors actually threatening again, I'd like to mention some things I might fix with the Inquisitors:
           1. The whole flying thing with the lightsabers is replaced with them having jetboots. 
          2. After the 5th and 7th sister get their asses handed to them by Ahsoka, they could've tried to train a bit on screen, and actually learn from mistakes. 
          3. Replace the 11th Brother in TOTJ with the 6th Brother. 
          4. The 8th Brother makes use of the environment around him. (For example, when he's running from Kanan and Ahsoka on Malachor, he could throw his saber and cut down a large rock to try and fall on the Jedi, or maybe lift up smal, spiked rocks and throw them.) 
          
          That's all for now, but honestly despite their many faults, I like the Inquisitors, and I'm glad that they're slowly getting the treatment they deserve.

TheGrandEmperor

Is there any villain/threat you would have liked to see during the times between the original trilogy and the sequels? 
          
          A very specific question, but I thought something like that would be necessary. I've been thinking about this, and it's a concept I might eventually use. Who knows?
          
          Let's imagine a Mandalorian Twilek. She would have been raised by a Mandalorian clan that settled on Ryloth. As she grew up, she and her clan would become bounty hunters. Eventually, she would connect with other Mandalorian clans scattered throughout the galaxy. We would see Mandalorians of different species. The Twilek would become the leader of these diverse Mandalorians. 
          Eventually, she would challenge Bo-Katan to a duel for the Darksaber, which she would win. 
          The Mandalorian Twilek would then become Mandalore, the necromancer, because she was able to resurrect Mandalorian culture.
          She would lead the scattered Mandalorians around the galaxy and recruit many more to her culture. Once she had obtained funds through smuggling, she would lead a holy war campaign against the New Republic and the Imperial Remnant (eventually the First Order). 
          
          There, she would face a young officer, Armitage Hux, and Padawan Ben Solo.
          
          In the end, Mandalore the necromancer would be defeated by a combination of the young officers of the Imperial Remnant and Luke Skywalker's Jedi Academy.
          Ben Solo would kill the Mandalorian Twilek under Snoke's influence, hastening his fall to the dark side.
          
          This war would serve to give battle experience to the young officers of the Imperial Remnant, as well as to Ben Solo.
          
          This war would also discredit the New Republic, making it appear weak, while exposing the corruption and incompetence of the old officers of the Imperial Remnant.
          Many citizens would come to admire the empire's iron fist, and the young officers led by Snoke would stage a coup, thus creating the First Order.

TheGrandEmperor

@GeneralVortex06 It sounds logical. I always thought Kylo Ren worked as someone pragmatic. 
            That is, in theory, Kylo Ren would be on a path of redemption. So it makes sense that he's less evil than Snoke. 
            
            The Fel Empire (from Legends) was more inclusive of aliens. So I also thought Kylo's empire should be like that.
            Besides, it would serve to differentiate him from Vader and the old Empire.
            Plus, it means more muscle and intelligence on his side.
            
            How would Kylo Ren deal with the promises to the Neo-Separatists? I mean, the original Separatists had ideals against economic regulation and high taxes.
            The Galactic Empire actually nationalized some of these companies.
            
            But well, the First Order also forged alliances with wealthy individuals, as seen in The Last Jedi.
            What I mean is: Would the Neo-Separatists be given their own region to govern autonomously?
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GeneralVortex06

@TheGrandEmperor Well my version of the First Order has two phases. Snoke's First Order, which is human-centric but they tolerate some aliens as civilians or servants. Kylo Ren's First Order however is more pragmatic, and so he allows some aliens to join the First Order officer corps and serve as spies. The Neo-Separatists also feel like they'd be in a better position if they aid the First Order and also it's the only way they'll be able to avenge Maxus (Who they see as a martyr to their cause).
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TheGrandEmperor

@GeneralVortex06 Hmm... interesting. I thought about a villain before the sequels because I feel those 30 years of "peace" had to be filled with something. Something that would allow our heroes and villains to shine.
            
            Your ideas sound fantastic, though I'm a bit curious. For example, the Empire and the First Order are known for being human-centric, but the Outer Rim is full of aliens. How did the First Order manage to gain the support of the Neo-Separatists?
            Or did they only get the support of humans? Or perhaps you plan for this First Order to be more inclusive? 
            Perhaps the First Order organizes paramilitary groups of aliens?
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GeneralVortex06

So, you may have seen that I have a new White Fang character called Niles Fenrir? Yeah, I know, edgy name, but it suits him. He's not a major villain like Adam or Cinder, he's more of a supporting villain, but that doesn't take away his brutality. He's also more mysterious as barely anyone knows what he looks like, but people know he exists due to the violent scenes he leaves behind. His reputation and unknown look has caused him to be given the nickname "Spøkelse" meaning ghost or phantom. 
          Unlike Adam who is more of a commander/soldier, Niles is an assassin who secretely yet violently kills important targets of the White Fang. In a way he's a bit like Tyrian, but less insane, and he's more of an arrogant sociopath than a cackling maniac. He doesn't exactly care for politics and isn't really a leader, simply enjoying killing his people's enemies and spreading his infamy, wanting to use his reputation of a remorseless killer to make the human elite bend to the White Fang's will. If Adam was the monster humans feared in the day, Niles would be the one they feared at night. Adam is the tip of the White Fang iceberg, Niles is the bottom of it. Adam is ruthless, but kills quickly, Niles likes to make his target suffer, to increase their fear of him and the White Fang. You get my point. 
          He's much less sympathetic than Adam, Ilia or Sienna, being more pure evil along the lines of Corsac and Fennec. 
          Weiss is so far the only human who has survived Niles, and now knows what he looks like.

TheGrandEmperor

@GeneralVortex06 I read there that the White fang took inspiration from the Ninjas. In this case, Niles Fenrir sounds like your typical ninja assassin. That's cool, adding variety. 
            
            I must be honest, in fanfics all of that of the underground, the terrorists and the criminals is the most interesting for me. So Weiss not only having a rivalry with Adam, but with many members of the organization is great.
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Olympiatookmysoul

Hey, was doing some brainstorming a while back and was coming up from some scenes between Levi and Tyrian. One of my ideas was for Tyrian to have this big monologue about how he was tortured and had body disfigured. Specifically I’m leaning towards this version of Tyrian to be inspired by Mick Foley, a wrestler from the 90’s who portrayed a character called Mankind. Here’s one of his promo’s, and honestly, some of these lines wouldn’t sound out of place  wing said by Tyrian. Have a look.
          
          https://youtu.be/h617p222AYI?si=JxPygSiyrwWB5BAj

Olympiatookmysoul

@TheGrandEmperor 
            I suppose so. Levi and Tyrian where childhood friends and teammates at Beacon. (Alongside Ironwood and Goodwitch, collectively known as Team GILT (Guilt) ) Tyrian was captured by The Crusaders and tortured, Levi tried to rescue him but he was too late, Tyrian had been tortured into insanity by the time he arrived. Tyrian would be held in a psych ward for a few months before escaping. Levi, who had been walking a tightrope over a full mental breakdown due to his marriage with Glynda deteriorating and already traumatized my seeing his friend in such a state, was given the task of tracking him down. It didn’t end well as Levi was hospitalized after a brief skirmish between the two. When recovered from his injuries he was ordered to continue his hunt and given explicit orders to kill Tyrian. Levi, who was now falling into substance abuse to cope with his injures and stress, refused and stormed out of Ozpin’s office. This was the last straw for him, as Glynda refused to tell him the true nature of her work with Ozpin, leading to Levi to think that she was having an affair with him. Levi would go off the grid for five years until he re-emerged as a founding member of CSR.
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GeneralVortex06

@Olympiatookmysoul Wow, you're right, that actually really does work for him.
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TheGrandEmperor

Is there any hero that you write as villain, or villain that you write as hero? 
          
          For example. For my fanfic, I'm planning in Ghira being a villain. Basically in this fanfic Kali was a human that died at the hands of the White fang (In this case, Ilia). Ghira would kill Ilia (Since she didn't obtain redemption). 
          
          Ghira would proceed to have a new ideology where he perceives that humans and faunus can't coexist together. So for both to live and prosper, he desires to divide them. That is, make the faunus live in Menagerie. In this fanfic, Menagerie is the richest land in Dust. 
          
          Ghira then makes the **Black fang**, an organization composed by faunus that share his mentality and want to force the faunus to go to Menagerie, or at least convince them. 
          
          Ghira, then allied with some rogue elements of the society to create his dream. 
          For example. He allies with the racist Cordovin since she also wants to force faunus to go to Menagerie. He allies with the villains of RWBY: Arrowfell. And he also allies with Roman Torchwick (in my fanfic, he is the leader of Spider and survived the fall of Beacon). 
          
          He opposes Ruby's group and Salem at the same time. 
          
          But tell me, do you do something similar?

TheGrandEmperor

@Olympiatookmysoul How about you? For example, in your fanfic it seems that Ironwood is going to be a baddie since the beginning, helping the Atlas crusaders. In canon while he was shady since volume 2, he became a villain in Volume 7 (Gravity).
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GeneralVortex06

@TheGrandEmperor Yeah, true. That version of him I wrote when I was 15 and was inspired by various Adam redemption fanfics. So I wanted to make my own version. I'm even making a remake of that book, but hopefully better written and Adam's still a bit morally grey.
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TheGrandEmperor

@GeneralVortex06 Well, in some of your deleted fanfics it seemed like you wanted to make Adam a hero.
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