GeneralVortex06

@TheGrandEmperor I remember seeing a fanfic on Amino where Cinder, Adam, Roman and some OC basically formed a RWBY version of the Shadow Collective. Pretty cool fanfic.
            As for how I write Roman and Neo, I see Roman as having no respect for the average White Fang grunt, seeing them as useless. I also see him being more frustrated as he just wants the whole job over sooner than later, as he wants to go back to being dependent. As for his relationship Adam, at first the two would not get along, but I feel like Roman may privately have some begrudging respect for Adam's leadership. Adam still won't like Roman though both for the treatment of his men, and also because he still doesn't like humans.
            Adam and Neo would be frenemies, in that Neo likes to mess with Adam and annoy him, and Adam finds her very annoying, but they both privately respect each other's combat skills. I even imagine a scene where Adam is walking away from Beacon after doing his part of the mission, and seeing Neo mourning Roman. Adam would silently sympathise with her and also prevent a Grimm from getting her, before walking away. Adam still won't want to work with her, but he doesn't want to hurt her, and Neo would respect Adam a little more.

This is something a friend mentioned to me. Does anyone remember Star Wars: The Clone Wars? With the Shadow Collective, the alliance of criminal groups. It would have been epic to see something like that in RWBY. With Roman as a crime lord affiliated with the White Fang. And Neo as his empress.
            
            Yes, I ship Roman and Neo, sorry.

@TheGrandEmperor I like the sound of this faction of yours. Looking forward to see more of it.

@GeneralVortex06 I also created a faction based on the White Fang, Adam, and Sienna.
            
            The Red Scarves.
            They are a group of lumpenproletariat. The dispossessed, the lowest of society.
            
            They are led by a woman named Carmen, who dedicates herself to attacking large mafias in order to steal their resources and support her people.
            Her second-in-command is Cesar, a boy whom she trained and indoctrinated. He is part of a generation of child soldiers who became fanatical about the Red Scarves' ideology.
            After Carmen's death, Cesar becomes the leader of the organization and declares war against the government. Now he wants to steal tax money and money from big business owners.
            He also allies himself with smugglers.
            
            In this case, instead of faunus, it's unemployed people, beggars, petty thieves, etc. People who have no way to survive other than the option Carmen and Cesar gave them.
            
            Regarding your story, I find it fascinating. I think of what Adam and Sienna characters must have been like.

An important thing to note is that there is a minority of Cycrens which do not follow Vultunica, rather following Xander's daughter, Amber Tervren (Kinda like a mixture of Ilia, Blake and Sienna) who follow the original version of Cycrenism and not the much more radical version of Vultunism. They still hate humans for what they did to the Cycrens, but don't want to enslave humanity and want a form of democracy instead of a nation lead by the strongest warrior. They are known as the Cycren Reclamation Front and follow a weird mixture of Social Democracy, with Nationalism and Militant views, but not outright extreme and not a warrior culture following social darwinistic views as the Cycren Order follows. 
            So yes, mainly a partial inspiration, but I would not have developed the Cycrens as much without the White Fang and Adam.

@56bruno56 Late reply, but I basically make these characters have the most positive traits and in Ruby and Pyrrha's case, the most empathetic. I also see Pyrrha, and as Ruby get's a bit older, to try and learn why people may turn to evil and try to offer them a way out of the darkness.
            An example would if Ruby learns of Adam's traumatic childhood and tries to help him see that not all of humanity is bad, and try to prevent him from falling into Salem's grip. I could see her working with Weiss on this, as Weiss would want to  try and redeem her family and company. I could imagine that if it works, Adam would look at Weiss, specifically her scar and say something like "You were a victim of a your father... Just like me?" As he relises that Weiss was not the source of his pain. All this would happen with Ruby trying to save Adam's fall into darkness.

@GeneralVortex06 I'm interested. How do you write these "egalitarian" characters?

@56bruno56 I feel like Ironwood, Robyn and Ozpin may be able to get through to some of the more moderate members of the White Fang, like Ilia or the average Captain. Ruby, and maybe Pyrrha, are probably the only ones that could get through to Adam, but Ozpin may be able to, but I feel like Adam would see Ozpin as not doing enough to help the faunus.

@Cosmicadventurer22 Pal, you know I appreciate you. And I thank you for showing me the GeneralVortex06 wattpad account and his fanfics. But, you are sick, friend. 
            
            Whatever, @Olympiatookmysoul Do these Crusaders have branches in each kingdom like the White fang? For example, how do they do in Vacuo? That's one of the least racist kingdoms.

@Cosmicadventurer22 
            Actually, their alliance pre-dates the fall, it was only after the fall that it escalated to full on providing them with arms, training and supplies, at first it was more of a “we’ll turn a blind eye to some of your activities if you fight The White Fang for us and give us intel on their movements.” Then they went to fully supporting them with weapons and equipment.

@Cosmicadventurer22  Buddy, it’s the internet, anyone can see it. Word of advice, take to one of the inner circles of hell that we call fandom websites. For a refresher, the outer most circle is Tumbler, fallowed by FF.Net, then Wattpad, then AO3, and the center of hell is Deviantart.

@Olympiatookmysoul Pretty much, actually. Sometimes I visit RWBYUnity. The moders aren't as tyrannical as in r/RWBY, aren't as extremist as R/RWBYcritics and some of their content is interesting. 
            Though sometimes it can get political.

@GeneralVortex06  That’s why I stick to r/fnki. Ironically that’s probably the only RWBY subreddit where people actually act like mature adults.

@GeneralVortex06 Sometimes I do the same. I'm trapped in discussions about Atlas and Ironwood. But is because I don't know what else to talk about. Adam? Too toxic the discussions.

@Olympiatookmysoul I could imagien Engineer would try to add more gun to Penny. Especially after Penny get's fixed after Volume 3.

@Hmp1307 I am working on one, but I have many things going on rn, plus I'm now focused on this new story of mine.

@ GeneralVortex06  no more star wars 

@GeneralVortex06 
            Complete and utter denial. He’s probably say something along the lines of “That’s not Adam. He may look like Adam, he may talk like Adam, but that man is not the brother I know.” And is horrified when Blake and Yang kill Adam. Cinder is an entirely different story, he’s heartbroken at seeing the woman he loves descend into madness.

@Olympiatookmysoul What would Gabriel's reaction be to Cannon-Rwby be?

@GeneralVortex06 
            Actually I see Levi taking like John Marston, and I see Jack talking like Leon or Krauser.

@Olympiatookmysoul Gabriel "I'm a force of nature" Taurus. 
            What next? Levi speaking like Sniper from TF2?

@GeneralVortex06  
            On the topic of that, been think of one of the more serious scenes in it. In which Shay meets Blake and they talk about turning on their former comrades and how Shay sees a lot of himself in Blake. But also warns her that she shouldn’t go down that path if she can’t bear the burden of it.

@Olympiatookmysoul Good. I welcome anything that's choatic.