KeefeFan333

Okay, so opinions on how the most powerful character in a book is always the one most in danger or critically wounded? Like I know plot armour, but this is plot armour reversed using magical author powers. I know that there isn’t really a way to get proper angst if the character is strong, but why make a character so strong and hypothetically untouchable and then go against everything you just said in your writing? For example: character has the most amazing abilities and the most anyone has seen, and yet said person has been kidnapped repeatedly, is constantly in the hospital, and generally weak and babied in a way.
          	Another thing that bugs me is when an author sets up a character to be one way, but then in the actual story the character feels forced and is doing things that they would never have done without the author making them. It just interrupts the story so much and the characters don’t feel natural, you lose the immersion you get from a story, you lose the escape from the real world. 
          	Anyways, rant over, how’s everyone doing? Hopefully better then me!
          	Also we don’t need to talk about the time, sleep is nonexistent for me at this point. 
          	P.S. Here’s a random phrase I came up with to represent one of my art pieces: “To hide the forgotten means one must know how it feels to be known.” Thoughts? I have a specific meaning behind it but I want to hear others’ opinions.

FreddieAndGeorgie22

@KeefeFan333 YESS. I feel like yeah, good angst is always something that does happen a lot, and I'm not complaining, but it should feed into the characters weaknesses. Have the character set up from the beginning to be bad at something or have something going on and then have them grow FROM that into something else!!
          	  
          	  OOOH I LIKE THE PHRASE. Words aren't really wording right now so i can't give full opinion, but I can say that it makes me feel things lol.
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KeefeFan333

Okay, so opinions on how the most powerful character in a book is always the one most in danger or critically wounded? Like I know plot armour, but this is plot armour reversed using magical author powers. I know that there isn’t really a way to get proper angst if the character is strong, but why make a character so strong and hypothetically untouchable and then go against everything you just said in your writing? For example: character has the most amazing abilities and the most anyone has seen, and yet said person has been kidnapped repeatedly, is constantly in the hospital, and generally weak and babied in a way.
          Another thing that bugs me is when an author sets up a character to be one way, but then in the actual story the character feels forced and is doing things that they would never have done without the author making them. It just interrupts the story so much and the characters don’t feel natural, you lose the immersion you get from a story, you lose the escape from the real world. 
          Anyways, rant over, how’s everyone doing? Hopefully better then me!
          Also we don’t need to talk about the time, sleep is nonexistent for me at this point. 
          P.S. Here’s a random phrase I came up with to represent one of my art pieces: “To hide the forgotten means one must know how it feels to be known.” Thoughts? I have a specific meaning behind it but I want to hear others’ opinions.

FreddieAndGeorgie22

@KeefeFan333 YESS. I feel like yeah, good angst is always something that does happen a lot, and I'm not complaining, but it should feed into the characters weaknesses. Have the character set up from the beginning to be bad at something or have something going on and then have them grow FROM that into something else!!
            
            OOOH I LIKE THE PHRASE. Words aren't really wording right now so i can't give full opinion, but I can say that it makes me feel things lol.
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KeefeFan333

Next up on my character list are Xisuma and Cleo, is there any lore about them (I don't personally watch them as often as I do others) that would be interesting for the potential plot so far, any hybrid features, special quirks, or habit that would help me build their character?

pearlofthepandas

Oops forgot to fix some autocorrect 
            void*** tentacles
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pearlofthepandas

@KeefeFan333 Xisuma is usually characterized as a Voidwalker. Not alot of these exist, people tend to fear them etc. But they can't survive long without the suit when they're not in the void. Or people just don't like the look of them so Xisuma hides how he looks/ he literally has good tentacles coming out of him without the suit, there's many different ways of interpretation.
            Dubbed the responsible one but that's just cuz he's the kind of personality that likes organization. "Like you can have fun but guys. I'm just the one who doesn't want to blow stuff up/burn stuff down/start a war. I care for you as individuals and friends and go take care of yourself. Now I'm gonna stay up til 3 am and play rock music" He's just "taking care of yourself is the bare minimum" sensible.
            
            Cleo tho, I'm not entirely sure. I don't see alot of content with her but definitely a similar "don't be stupid and get yourselves killed I care a LITTLE bit" vibe. Them, on the other hand will go blow something up/set something on fire as long as you have a good plan. Don't be reckless about it energy. Likes drama but will not put up with you going back to your ex for the third time, yknow? Usually loyal, but who knows? Maybe they'll get bored and stab you in the back. That's the vibe I get idk
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StrawberrySauce7

@KeefeFan333 this isn't mine, but i remeber reading a headcannon where X isn't a hybrid but was raised in the Nether and that's why he wears the helmet because he's not used to the overworld air
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KeefeFan333

If anyone is active on their Wattpad… I found this(thanks bleep_bloopduo!)
          https://www.wattpad.com/1505815218-the-alive-wattpad-peeps-welcome-peeps 
          So uh, yeah

KeefeFan333

So, I have a problem. I got books for my birthday(not the problem I love books), but that means I have to re organise my bookshelves (it’s in alphabetical order by author last name), which means I need another bookshelf which means I need to clean my room so that I can bring in the bookshelf but then I need to properly make my bed so that I can have a place to sort books which means that I have to find a place to put all the random things currently laying on my bed which means a lot of work and several sleepless nights because I know I’ll get distracted reading the books I’m trying to sort and then I’ll either give up halfway through or I’ll never start or I’ll do it just in time to by myself more books. “Thinking, thinking is a mistake.” -Grian. Can someone help me talk myself into starting all this?

pearlofthepandas

@KeefeFan333 of course! I've found its alot easier for me to think something like this out when it's not happening to me. Because if that was happening to me I would be just as overwhelmed. All the love ❤❤❤❤❤❤
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KeefeFan333

@bleep_bloopduo Thank you so so much!!! Girl you always know the best things to say to help others and I just want you to know that you are loved and appreciated for who you are, don’t let anyone tell you otherwise because you are perfect just as you are. The world sucks, but it’s only to build us stronger and the best way to do so is to stand together. 
            Decided not to sort the books quite yet because I have to start and complete an essay for my duel credit class as well as catch up on 2 months worth of work for my online class and if I keep putting those off I won’t be able to settle into the rhythm of sorting and cleaning:( . Anyways, thank you so much for the kind things you have said to me, I hope you have a better rest of your day!
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pearlofthepandas

@KeefeFan333 ALSO SLEEP. DO NOT USE YOUR BED FOR STORAGE (unless it's for like a few minutes) 
            MAKE SURE YOU SLEEP
            You don't get it all done in one day? That's ok. Today you can listen to Toby fox, or maybe nintendo music
            BUT MAKE SURE YOU SLEEP.
            and take breaks for hobbies. That means you can have an hour break from cleaning to watch youtube, or read. Or work on something artsy (but that goes in a different room if it's physical stuff. Sketching in a notebook? Okay. Colored pencils or markers? Different place.) Maybe you write. Play a game. It's up to you. But remember to make time every day for it. You don't want to get burnout.
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Shortnamesaremid

Wait i just did math
          
          Is ur birthday on CHRISTMAS?

pearlofthepandas

@KeefeFan333 haven't quite celebrated yet. Family will be here this weekend so we're celebrating Saturday.
            In the meantime relatives from the my dad's side (they're in Oregon and idaho) have sent family gifts. And the children open one a night. I'll open one tomorrow. 
            Other than that I accidentally overheard what my parents have gotten me for Christmas, and my mom is organizing gifts by wrapping paper instead of marking them, so I know one child has three under the tree and I have 1. Not that it matters and obv others will bring stuff, but the realization hits anyway.
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KeefeFan333

@bleep_bloopduo Thank you!!!! How was your holidays(whatever you celebrate if at all)?
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pearlofthepandas

@KeefeFan333 I MISSED YOUR BIRTHDAY I'M SO SORRY
            HAPPY BIRTHDAYYYYYYY
            YOU'RE OLDER NOW AND HOTTER
            YOUR SENSE OF STYLE HAS GOTTEN MORE REFINED AND YOU KNOW MORE STUFF
            Christmas is fun too :)
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KeefeFan333

Okay, so I'm working on Doc and Tango's characters for my character development thing, what are some little quirks, habits, and or notes about them that I could implement into their characters?

pearlofthepandas

@KeefeFan333 petty man doc is
            If you search deep enough he has dad instincts. But I'm not sure anyone on the server is needy enough per-se to ignite that in him.
            Much hermit. Leave him alone and he will leave u alone
            Tango? Muy angy. Smart. But when his friends get on his nerves and tease him he gets very loud. "JERK" is a tango audio ingrained in my brain
            He will hyperfixate and go into bunker mode and possibly not come out and socialize for 2 weeks. He then makes frickin Decked Out 3
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SullyThePony

@KeefeFan333 doc purring
            
            ( he would totally purr)
            
            and also viewing the childish guys of hc as his lil kids :3
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Shortnamesaremid

@KeefeFan333 doc is the fluffiest goat you could ever draw :3
            
            And he loves his kid
            
            Tango cant wordificate and makes up words like wordificate. And he has teh cutest. Voice. Ever.
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KeefeFan333

Y’all I just realised that I have a performance in 5 days and my birthday in 8 days, how did time fly so fast?

Shortnamesaremid

@Skylor209
            
            REAL! the days before christmas used to crawl but like, its flying bu
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Skylor209

I think covid affected us all and our sense of time in some way????
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KeefeFan333

Okay, favourite smell around the holidays?

Skylor209

Honestly the smell of freedom knowing I don't have to go back to school (hell) for two weeks don't have to worry about midterms!
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SullyThePony

@KeefeFan333 LATKES !!!!! they're so good i want them all year long i need them-
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KeefeFan333

Anyone else excited for MCC tomorrow? G's team is all British, its him, Tim, Joel, and Martyn so it's gonna be a fun stream at least. Also they are the pink parrots, coincidence? I think not! 
          I don't do all the stats and stuff but the Orange team looks pretty strong ngl.

SullyThePony

@KeefeFan333 guys help wth why does mcc happen so much
            
            scott must be a busy man
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KeefeFan333

@SullyThePony Lol, sorry I dumped all this info on you so suddenly!
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KeefeFan333

Would anyone be interested in seeing some character development for a book I may never write? I’ve outlined several of the characters (mcyt of course) but it’s not quite perfect yet. It’s basically just a look, habit, and personality guide for when I write, so if anyone is interested I’d be happy to share

KeefeFan333

Okay just give me like an hour to get it to my standards
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