LavenderandRosemary

Anyone interested in common motifs in Warrior Cats, and their effect on the popularity of the fire scene? 
          	
          	Plus a brief mention of similar uses of motifs in the Stormlight Archives? 
          	
          	You're in luck! I'm dumping my analysis in this message thread.
          	
          	

LavenderandRosemary

You see these motifs a lot in songs (which is why fire scene AMVs are common). Take Blood On My Name, by The Brothers Bright:
          	  
          	  "When the fires, when the fires are consuming you
          	  And your sacred stars won't be guiding you"
          	  
          	  Or Drops in the Lake by Lord Huron:
          	  
          	  "I look up at the uncaring sky
          	  With a prayer on my lips and a tear in my eye
          	  Oh, how the heart burns like fire (…)"
          	  
          	  In both, we see stars as holy ("sacred", "prayer") but "uncaring". We also see fire as emotion ("the heart burns") and as destructively "consuming", which could apply to extreme emotions.
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LavenderandRosemary

"This goes for the Stormlight Archives as well. Storms, light, darkness, chaos/order and passion/logic dualities… very resonant within the English literary canon."
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LavenderandRosemary

"If Ashfur had pushed the Three into a snake pit instead of a fire, the scene wouldn't be half as commonly adapted."
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LavenderandRosemary

Anyone interested in common motifs in Warrior Cats, and their effect on the popularity of the fire scene? 
          
          Plus a brief mention of similar uses of motifs in the Stormlight Archives? 
          
          You're in luck! I'm dumping my analysis in this message thread.
          
          

LavenderandRosemary

You see these motifs a lot in songs (which is why fire scene AMVs are common). Take Blood On My Name, by The Brothers Bright:
            
            "When the fires, when the fires are consuming you
            And your sacred stars won't be guiding you"
            
            Or Drops in the Lake by Lord Huron:
            
            "I look up at the uncaring sky
            With a prayer on my lips and a tear in my eye
            Oh, how the heart burns like fire (…)"
            
            In both, we see stars as holy ("sacred", "prayer") but "uncaring". We also see fire as emotion ("the heart burns") and as destructively "consuming", which could apply to extreme emotions.
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LavenderandRosemary

"This goes for the Stormlight Archives as well. Storms, light, darkness, chaos/order and passion/logic dualities… very resonant within the English literary canon."
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LavenderandRosemary

"If Ashfur had pushed the Three into a snake pit instead of a fire, the scene wouldn't be half as commonly adapted."
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LavenderandRosemary

@meroceank8921 Absolutely! Also, is Bee Charmer on Wattpad? It sounds really interesting from what you've mentioned, and I might like to read it. I actually do know of a few characters who positively represent autism, who I meant to mention earlier but ran out of time - MissLunaRose here on Wattpad is autistic and has written several books (mainly contemporary) with autistic main characters, and in terms of offline published books, some of Brandon Sanderson's fantasy works feature autistic characters (Steris Harms in Mistborn era 2, and Renarin Kholin (in the Stormlight Archives) - but overall, more representation would definitely be a plus. And I haven't seen many characters with other neurodivergencies, except sometimes ADHD, although that could just be because I wasn't looking.

LavenderandRosemary

That sounds wonderful! Fantasy's actually one of my favourite genres, so I would definitely read a fantasy book with a neurodivergent main character. And I think your award idea is also really cool. In terms of literature representation, I think there have always been characters with neurodiverse traits, but I haven't often seen characters diagnosed (or characters who likely would be diagnosed, if their setting had the terms) as autistic or otherwise neurodivergent. 

LavenderandRosemary

@meroceank8921 The second book in the series was recommended to me (as one of the 'If you're reading x you might also like y'), and the title grabbed my attention because I love cats. I then checked out the description, and upon seeing that the MC was autistic (I'm also autistic, so it's nice to read a book with neurodiversity rep) and that it was sci-fi/dystopian (genres I enjoy) I was sold, so I started reading the first book. 

LavenderandRosemary

Turns out I can articulate my ideas way better in a little rhyme about a caterpillar than I can in the long pretentious poem I've been working on for days…
          
          Anyways, I'm back, here's a poem! Not my best-ever work, but who cares?
          
          https://www.wattpad.com/story/240635396?utm_source=android&utm_medium=link&utm_content=share_reading&wp_page=reading_part_end&wp_uname=LavenderandRosemary&wp_originator=8WtzrvMyWVKbT73o%2Bt7pzg4tkW9QY4koKBEupw%2BWpy9ihIpe4OcCWxTomp6LCSKlX%2B9qLTnya6kuERMKNn7TJSGgU6Kk5fDxbv3yFhuEfIyz%2BQNHS%2BW0w9bmSr8Yq%2BCe