Thank you, its good to have a second opinion! In my point of view, if they have non detailed birth as R rated then the rating system is disgusting! Birth is bringing life into the world... If it wasn't for women doing what they do, the world wound't exists! I could understand if I had gone into detail about the birth but all that was basically in there was 'May produces a groan and pushed.' I did it as Oliver's point of view for that reason....