NerdPrincessLina

I know some of you are vampires smp fans, so I want to share my Horrible Evil Theory/Headcannon.
          	Spoilers for Owen's backstory.
          	So. Here's the relevant information: Turning someone is enough to make you a level 2 vampire (as seen in Scott and Pyro's POVs). By level 2, you have claws, bat form, invisibility, and the lunge. Louis (or is it Lewis?) was a good person. He did not like violence. He was killed shortly after turning Owen. He was framed, and the townsfolk did not actually know he was a vampire. He is 100% dead, as Owen saw him in the afterlife.
          	So... Because he'd turned Owen, Louis was almost certainly level 2. So he had bat form, invisibility, and the lunge. And the townsfolk had no reason to trap him with silver and no beacon to stop his abilities. He had access to them. Completely. /So he could've gotten away from the pyre/. He could've turned invisible, jumped away, turned into a bat, fought his way out. But he didn't. I think that's because he knew they'd come after him if they knew he was a vampire. And then he'd have to kill them to get away. And he did the math, weighed the scales, and decided his life wasn't worth the cost in the lives of the townsfolk. So he walked /willingly/ to the pyre, to save them.
          	This makes Owen killing them even worse, and also those lines where he's like "Louis' life was worth every one of theirs!"
          	Yeah. I've been thinking about this for a while, so you can have this horrible terrible thing I thought of, too, now.

NerdPrincessLina

@Probs_reading_ yeah... the /only/ way to redeem Owen was to somehow convince him he was wrong, and he was very stubborn, and few people in Oakhurst actually genuinely believed he was wrong, at least strongly enough to be able to convince him. Dr. Legs /wanted/ to believe Owen was wrong, but in the end, didn't. 
          	  The only reason I say Owen was redeemable is that I'm too much of an optimist and I'm also very pedantic. If something is possible, no matter how unlikely, I will not call it impossible. Owen being redeemed was crazy unlikely under any circumstance, and even less likely under the circumstances of Oakhurst, but I just can't call it impossible.
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Probs_reading_

@NerdPrincessLina also! I had an idea with whether or not Owen could have been redeemed. Owen’s key idea about morality is that ‘ you can try all you like but you’ll never change’. That was why he killed Avid, in some sense. If that was so, it makes sense that Owen the human; who had a deeply rooted loathing towards the villagers for their actions toward him due to his disease. This means that, if we take Owen’s logic, he never would have been able to redeem himself because he would forever align with his idea of hate and outcastness to the world
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Probs_reading_

@NerdPrincessLina exactly! You’ve put my thoughts into words
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NerdPrincessLina

I know some of you are vampires smp fans, so I want to share my Horrible Evil Theory/Headcannon.
          Spoilers for Owen's backstory.
          So. Here's the relevant information: Turning someone is enough to make you a level 2 vampire (as seen in Scott and Pyro's POVs). By level 2, you have claws, bat form, invisibility, and the lunge. Louis (or is it Lewis?) was a good person. He did not like violence. He was killed shortly after turning Owen. He was framed, and the townsfolk did not actually know he was a vampire. He is 100% dead, as Owen saw him in the afterlife.
          So... Because he'd turned Owen, Louis was almost certainly level 2. So he had bat form, invisibility, and the lunge. And the townsfolk had no reason to trap him with silver and no beacon to stop his abilities. He had access to them. Completely. /So he could've gotten away from the pyre/. He could've turned invisible, jumped away, turned into a bat, fought his way out. But he didn't. I think that's because he knew they'd come after him if they knew he was a vampire. And then he'd have to kill them to get away. And he did the math, weighed the scales, and decided his life wasn't worth the cost in the lives of the townsfolk. So he walked /willingly/ to the pyre, to save them.
          This makes Owen killing them even worse, and also those lines where he's like "Louis' life was worth every one of theirs!"
          Yeah. I've been thinking about this for a while, so you can have this horrible terrible thing I thought of, too, now.

NerdPrincessLina

@Probs_reading_ yeah... the /only/ way to redeem Owen was to somehow convince him he was wrong, and he was very stubborn, and few people in Oakhurst actually genuinely believed he was wrong, at least strongly enough to be able to convince him. Dr. Legs /wanted/ to believe Owen was wrong, but in the end, didn't. 
            The only reason I say Owen was redeemable is that I'm too much of an optimist and I'm also very pedantic. If something is possible, no matter how unlikely, I will not call it impossible. Owen being redeemed was crazy unlikely under any circumstance, and even less likely under the circumstances of Oakhurst, but I just can't call it impossible.
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Probs_reading_

@NerdPrincessLina also! I had an idea with whether or not Owen could have been redeemed. Owen’s key idea about morality is that ‘ you can try all you like but you’ll never change’. That was why he killed Avid, in some sense. If that was so, it makes sense that Owen the human; who had a deeply rooted loathing towards the villagers for their actions toward him due to his disease. This means that, if we take Owen’s logic, he never would have been able to redeem himself because he would forever align with his idea of hate and outcastness to the world
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Probs_reading_

@NerdPrincessLina exactly! You’ve put my thoughts into words
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SamIsGeek

Just saw that Lila Grace account commented. She join another stories discord server and has been harassing them for commissions. She used the same exact wording in your message as theirs. She’s just spamming around, hoping to get money. Just thought I’d let you know.

NerdPrincessLina

@SamIsGeek Yeah, when I get this kind of message, I like to check the person's profile to see if they have any other stories from this fandom saved, and if they don't I get suspicious. I'm trying to politely turn her down - luckily, I have the ability to honestly say that payment is literally impossible! And if that doesn't work, I know where the block and report buttons are.
            Thank you for the warning, though. Makes me a lot more comfortable with actually using those things. I usually don't cause it feels rude.
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NerdPrincessLina

I'm fighting a turtle from hell in Deltarune right now.
          only one of the secret bosses I've found, and he's like top 3 hardest fights in the ENTIRE GAME what the heck

NerdPrincessLina

update, I beat the turtle from hell.
            my brother showed me the chapter 1 secret boss and uh. yeah no. the turtle from hell took me like thirty tries, and the only reason I had motivation to keep going was that he was so nice and polite and I felt like it could be important to Susie's character arc. I will not be going for a full secrets run if I ever play through this game again.
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NerdPrincessLina

I did a silly in my first playthrough. 
          So like, I did the mettaton ex fight - which I love, by the way. he's such an icon - and I lost. /twice/. For context, I'd died at most twice before this, and I highly doubt it was more than once, and not to the same thing.
          But after those two tries, it was pretty late and I was a little frustrated, so I decided it was bedtime. I chatted with my brother before I went to bed, though. Told him about the fight and how it was going. He was like, yeah, that's a hard fight. I complained about the attacks that were impossible to dodge. He asked if I'd used the gun. I asked what gun.
          The next day I did the fight again and won, because I used the gun. 
          Course, I still find those gunless fights a point of pride. Because I didn't use a gun, and I still got to armless mettaton, which is dang far.
          I was still a little silly during this fight on my second run, but that time it was a trying-to-play-one-handed-lik-you-do-for-most-fights kinda silly, not a forgetting-the-main-mechanic-of-the-fight kinda silly.

NerdPrincessLina

One of the most unexpected things in my Undertale run was Papyrus. I knew about Sans, because I've existed on the internet, but I'd heard absolutely nothing about Papyrus, and I feel like that's a crime. He's hilarious. And I really love Sans' and Papyrus' relationship. Like, Papyrus is kinda obviously a loser. But Sans thinks he's the coolest guy ever, and y'know what? Papyrus is a loser in the coolest way possible. I love him so much, he's so goofy.

NerdPrincessLina

My normal Undertale run was normal because I killed three things: two vegetable dudes, and /Toriel/.
          I just couldn't figure out how to beat the vegetable dudes peacefully and didn't care enough, so I killed them. Shortly after, my brother told me that you have to kill /absolutely nothing/ to get the specific ending, and I regretted it.
          Toriel I thought might surrender if I hit her enough. She's the first boss, so I hadn't encountered anyone who you just had to wait out before, and my brother wasn't there to tell me that was how it worked, so she died. And I felt sooooo bad. I love Toriel and her mom energy. And I kept trying to call her and the line you get when you do that is heartbreaking, and then I learned more about her and I felt even worse, and then I talked to Asgore, with the knowledge that I'd killed his wife, and continued to feel horrible. Then I got my final phone call (Toriel was the only boss I'd killed) and, shortly after, learned that things go /much better/ when Toriel's alive. More regret.
          But on my second playthrough, no one and nothing died and I got the true ending and everything was great!

NerdPrincessLina

When I say I 'beat' Undertale, I mean I played it through one normal game, and then played it through /again/ to get the true pacifist ending.
          I also feel like it's important to mention that my normal playthrough was almost entirely blind. I knew a bit about who sans is and that he's more than he seems, I knew Flowey is kinda evil, and I knew Toriel existed. Nothing else, plot-wise. Though, I had seen memes of like "It's you!" and "Despite everything, it's still you." and I knew that the game messed with your save files a bit, that how many things you killed mattered in some way (but not how), and sort of understood how the 'fun' values work. 
          Other than those relatively minor details, I went in without knowing what was going to happen, because my brother kept saying "hey, Lina! I think you'll like this game!" and I respect his opinions on games quite a bit. So I played, eventually.

NerdPrincessLina

I recently beat Undertale! Hooray! 
          If you don't want spoilers, be careful what you read on my feed, and if you want to chat about it, go ahead. But be warned: I'm not /super/ deep into the fandom. I don't know all the secret lore or theories. Just a little.

Probs_reading_

Hi! Have you been watching the new Life Series? I feel as though there has been heaps of flower husbands boatboys content and angst that could be good for fics and animatics. Who do you think will win?

NerdPrincessLina

@Probs_reading_ It was horrible and sad in such a funny way
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Probs_reading_

@NerdPrincessLina her voice was so strange I thought someone else had taken over her at first.
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