SeraDrake

New short story about a space explorer coming back to a ruined Earth: "Home."
          	
          	https://www.wattpad.com/1591203208-what-is-told-a-conglomeration-of-confabulations
          	
          	Because I had nowhere else to park it, other than making it a oneshot, which I don't like doing, I put it in what will be the "protest stories" section of _What Is Told: A Conglomeration of Confabulations_, an otherwise fantasy-oriented book. 
          	
          	Well, hey. It's a nameless narrator swapping stories with Geoffrey Chaucer and talking about the craft of writing with him (well, it will be when I have all the interludes and stories put in place). I suppose one of those stories being science fiction rather than fantasy probably won't be too weird, under the circumstances.

SeraDrake

New short story about a space explorer coming back to a ruined Earth: "Home."
          
          https://www.wattpad.com/1591203208-what-is-told-a-conglomeration-of-confabulations
          
          Because I had nowhere else to park it, other than making it a oneshot, which I don't like doing, I put it in what will be the "protest stories" section of _What Is Told: A Conglomeration of Confabulations_, an otherwise fantasy-oriented book. 
          
          Well, hey. It's a nameless narrator swapping stories with Geoffrey Chaucer and talking about the craft of writing with him (well, it will be when I have all the interludes and stories put in place). I suppose one of those stories being science fiction rather than fantasy probably won't be too weird, under the circumstances.

SeraDrake

How many years old does a book need to be for you to automatically not want to read it on Wattpad?
          
          Personally, I see five years as my limit, but that's because most Wattpad writers seem to abandon the platform within five years of joining, and I only want to read books by active Wattpadians who need algorithmic boosts to keep their books fresh in the public eye. If I see an older work and see that the author is still active on the platform, I'll read it.

SeraDrake

@Ravendipity - Eh. In my case, it's all moot - everything I write is too weird and too difficult anyway. If I were any weirder or any more difficult, I'd be William Faulkner.
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Ravendipity

@SeraDrake Younger audiences may prefer more recent, but I think readers generally care more about completion status. Most readers I know far prefer to read a completed book than an ongoing one. So I think it's more about completion than age. I mean I have an almost 4-year-old story still topping rankings, but it did jack squat when it was ongoing.
            
            Though, honestly, in my experience, every time you try something for the algorithm's sake, it doesn't work, but the story you don't even try anything with ends up popping off.
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SeraDrake

Woke up with a headache that needed six extra strength Tylenol to turn down to a dull roar, since I no longer keep anything stronger in the medicine cabinet. 
          
          Today is going to be another one of those "fun" days.

Ululavit

@SeraDrake there's always the southern hemisphere! We have all of the seasonal holidays backwards. Halloween in the middle of spring is hard to reconcile.
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SeraDrake

@Ululavit - Spring. Spring would be a wonderful time for all the major and minor awards alike to come out. I don't have anything personal to remember in the spring. in the spring, I'm usually bubbling with confidence. Failing that, well, my pollen allergies are so bad that I'm too distracted to care about whether or not I'm getting rejected or falling short of expectations six ways to Sunday... But no. Everything always has to happen around the winter holidays. Finagle's Law, I guess.
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SeraDrake

@Ululavit - Thank you. For what it's worth, I have a very hard time not falling apart around this time of year. It makes me far more fragile than I would ordinarily be. I hope I'm not too annoying. I try to keep my emotions to myself, for the most part, but every now and then, something sets me off and I wind up venting a lot more than I ever mean to.
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SeraDrake

I've been too exhausted and dispirited to do much writing, not to mention, I have very little free time to call my own right now - but I have managed to make some new art. 
          
          The just-for-fun stuff is in here. 
          
          https://www.wattpad.com/story/401892706-kaleidoscope-a-new-gallery
          
          I'll post the promotional art updates another evening. 
          
          Need to get to bed now. I have to be up ridiculously early in the morning tomorrow. As usual.

Romizabooks

So I’m on ProWritingAid for Novel November. Guess what? My posts are being put ‘in review’, even some comments. 
          
          I’ve even go this message from an admin:
          
          Bridgette 06:32 AM
          
          Hey Romiza,
          Wanted to give you a quick heads up: The team has archived your recent post, as it does not adhere to our community guidelines.
          
          Hi Romiza! Due to privacy concerns, we do not permit community members to disclose their age in posts. You will need to reword this to not specifically request teens for feedback if you'd like to repost.
          

SeraDrake

Just a reminder: if you see someone advertising ANYTHING that invites you to go off Wattpad and fork over your money, even if it's a small amount of money, it's probably a scam.
          
          It might be the sort of "cinematic trailers," webtoons, "fan art," and "professional-looking book covers" that are what is very obviously a chatbot asks you to buy, sometimes after buttering you up with spammy, phony-feeling, slightly disjointed compliments and questions left as comments at the bottom of a chapter of one of your books. I get these effusive, sycophantic comments left in my Book of Contests all the time, so seeing a chatbot say how "inspiring" my book is and how all it needs is a webtoon or a cinematic book trailer to "really shine" is amusing. Reporting the comment, not so much. I think I've mentioned how exhausting it is to have to do this several times a day. There are other things I'd rather do with my limited spare time.
          
          Sometimes, what is advertised is a writing contest. A real-world writing contest that requires you to pay an entry fee. An entry fee that is money, because the real world does not run on follows, upvotes, and shoutouts. The contest may even be a legitimate one, although that is highly unlikely, because in the real world, nobody recruits authors from free platforms like Wattpad to enter serious contests.
          
          If somebody advertises a pay-to-play contest or fee-up-front service and invites you off Wattpad to pay up, that entity is probably hoping that by luring you off Wattpad to pay for whatever was advertised, their comment won't be considered spam (or scam).
          
          Bold of the spammer to make that assumption... 
          
          Report and block. And don't fall for it.
          
          This has been a public service announcement from someone who is VERY tired of having to report scam spam...

JankyFluffy

@AutandMia They use AI and bots to mention post on a bunch of people's stories, when they are real the quality usually isn't great, and it's made with generative AI, or they are such a new person to the craft. I haven't paid them, but I do know someone who did, and the products they received were not what they paid for.  If they come to you, even if it's real, it's not going to be what you're looking for.
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Romizabooks

@SeraDrake 
            I have fallen for a scam who took advantage of my discord link which I had at the time (this was last month). The scammer’s account got deleted after complimenting me. They tried calling me through discord. I have logged out of discord app and now use web version for safety. 
            
            These scammers are using real names with profile pics of real people.
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SeraDrake

Debating whether I want to continue putting time and energy into this platform, or whether I just want to let being a Wattpad Creator go, abandon Wattpad altogether, and move on to other pastures. 
          
          Aside from my "But, Mr Adams!" problem (that's a 1776 reference, in case you were wondering) there are a number of other factors right now that are making me mull this over. 
          
          Having to screenshot, report, and block chatbots practically every day gets exhausting. 
          
          Knowing that most of the people who read my work only do so because they have a gun put to their heads (metaphotically speaking) is disheartening. So is knowing that I'd be a LOT more successful on this platform if only I'd just write serialized fiction in a popular genre, preferably in a way that accommodates people who are used to smartphones, soundbites, tropes, and ease of digestion. (Not that this problem is specific to Wattpad. It's universal. Actually, so are the bots, but screenshot-and-report is less of an onerous duty elsewhere because I don't bother doing it elsewhere).
          
           I feel a little out of place here due to being old enough to be the average Wattpadian's grandparent. 
          
          Knowing that I'm good enough to maybe get on the radar, but will never be great enough to make the big time, largely because I write what I like to read and when I try to push the English language until it screams, the end result is a literary experiment best left in some mad scientist's laboratory in a brain jar marked "ABBY NORMAL," hurts. (See earlier complaint about how "people who read me mostly do so because it's transactional or some other form of coercion is involved" - but really, the "you'll never be good enough" whisper I get from the back of my mind is a factor here as well).
          
          I'm just tired. Very, very tired.

JankyFluffy

@SeraDrake  Your readers are more than me and most writers on Wattpad.  I stopped promoting book Wattpad books because I get more reads other places.  I only use Wattpad to cross post now. It's worth having a couple stories up for me and enter in bigger contests like the Amby, all  the smaller contests take a lot of time. 
            I am just tired of cross posting because it causes too many copy past errors from google docs and reedsy like the same chapter twice.  And I have to keep fixing my muses book which for some reason has removed chapter one a couple times. 
            I'd quit but I have another book I publishing with Inkspired. 
            And I like writing.  But I am not going to get good reviews when the wrong chapter is copied. I checked it before publishing and all was fine. 
            I think I am done promoting muses. Even though I love the book, my other books do a lot better, read wise, and reviewwise.
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JonLeePeto

@SeraDrake What you describe is true for many, as we can see from the comments, and is probably not going to change. There's also no such thing as stardom on Wattpad, in my opinion.
            
            So I guess if you stay it will be for other reasons, like community, or to gather some opinions on your writing, or because the other online options are probably not much different etc.
            
            Once that runs its course for someone, they leave it seems. In five years I've already seen a few cycles of writers who eventually become less active and then leave and I suppose I'll see some more. I keep wondering when I'll lose my footing and disappear too...
            
            There are a lot of us "mature" writers here though. Don't let that chase you away!
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Romizabooks

@SeraDrake 
            If you decide to leave, I would like a way to keep in touch with you. I guess many people would.
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SeraDrake

Would tweaking Ancilla by adding a new graphic page at the end just to make it "updated" enough to give it the algorithmic boost it needs to get its hashtag listings back disqualify it from potentially advancing in the Ambys?
          
          Losing all but my worst hashtag ratings is absolutely killing visibility. I'm at the end of my rope.

QuinceArchFortes

@SeraDrake You're right. I don't get daily activity at any level, but I do see a boost when I edit or add content.
            
            That being said, I'm avoiding publishing anything new on any stories still in the Ambys to make sure I don't disqualify myself. Last year got away with updating a cover - but those don't get judged. 
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SeraDrake

@AutandMia @alexmasonfics_backup - Yeah, I know. That, and frequent updating, because Wattpad likes ongoing better than complete - serialized books have more engagement. I'm seriously thinking of just quitting Wattpad, tbh.
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AutandMia

@SeraDrake , the comment and voting, you need more of those
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SeraDrake

READ THIS SCIENCE FICTION DYSTOPIAN STORY. It's amazing. (It might be a bit much for the squeamish. I probably should have read the blurb before jumping in feet-first. The story looks like it's going to get grim before long. The blurb that I read after ploughing through all the chapters indicated that there will be some interesting questions raised about what it means to be human as the main character loses vestiges of his humanity). 
          
          https://www.wattpad.com/story/403454276-the-mist