Shadowofthyself

"Wish you were here." By Avril Lavigne

Shadowofthyself

@gruopui Yes, that is where things get interesting. Let's say he did sell Luna the blueprint and she actually created it.
          The king, and the princesses (some nobles/students as well) would not be too pleased, and will publicly lambast Cid as a boy "naive" enough to market such a revolutionary machine to a shady business woman over presenting it to his own royal kingdom. Touting that he had chosen business (gold) over loyalty and diligence to the crown.
          Many will also theorize that Luna must had compensated him generously.
          Or have him under her paws for this to happen. 
          It's all jealously of course. And a ploy to conceal their flabbergastion, awe and exasperation at such creation.
          
          Through all this, they hope to discredit Luna enough and gently "reclaim" ownership of him from the meddling business woman. And hopefully reclaim that aircraft too.
          
          An aircraft poses severe security risk for the kingdom. It's creation should never had been allowed without input or validation from Midgar.
          

gruopui

Una pregunta como reaccionarían los estudiantes el rey e iris y los demás personajes a esta escena.
          
          Cid está saliendo de la academia y iris lo ve.
          
          Las sombras o empleados de Mitsubishi vuelan a la academia en helicóptero, y lo reciben en público y dicen que suba y el Seva en helicóptero frente a todo el se sueve y se va.
          
          Y luego dicen Gamma que el helicóptero es una técnologia creada por el.

gruopui

@ gruopui  pero si en verdad todos creyeran que cid es el creador y le vendió la tecnología a Mitsubishi 
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Shadowofthyself

@gruopui Happy New Year @Gruopui !!
            Sorry for the absence of chapters regarding my main fic. I am still taking a break, and will return for it later - alot of really good stuff is coming then ;3.
            
            This hypothetical scenario is funny and mirth-inducing. The shades (or employees from Mitsugoshi) arriving in a true real-world helicopter to personally welcome Cid, right in sight of the king, the academy students and Iris (alongside Alexia too) !?
            
            And it's Gamma - the head of revolutionary Mitsugoshi - at the forefront, claiming this mysterious technological bird is lawfully created and conceived by him !?
            
            Hehehe. Jajajaja !
            
            They will reasonably think a game was afoot, and Cid is in fact Luna's chosen pet, boy-toy or paramour. Perhaps Luna lost a bet to Cid kagenou or is just being a good family friend.
            
            Luna will be the most humble revolutionaire alive. And Cid the wickedly lucky idiot.
            
            Of course, when they realize it isn't actually a joke or a charitable act by Mitsugoshi. That is where it gets entertaining !
            
            Very nice and exciting premise.
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Shadowofthyself

The new year is here. I want you all to be filled with EMINENCE and MOTIVATION. In spirit of that, I am revisiting this Vergil (DMC5) vs Cid (TEIS). For the final time.
          
          Each move was akin to torrents. Streaming and swimming into the other - birthing from every inconceivable angle, manifesting blasphemous excess and capabilities.
          
          The shades - easily Alpha - all ached from a shared vantage. Uncertain for their master.
          
          Cid was the outsider; predominantly weathering the unforgivable storm; cursed to spin and weave - forever stalling and parrying unrelenting slash/strike/cut.
          
          Every thundering collision took more of his sleeve, fabric, the environment (and their spirit with it.)
          
          Sin-Devil-Trigger Vergil remained silent, accelerating and buzzing indifferently - supplementing assaults using conjured magical-blades, arcs. Sorcery.
          
          Cid was a blur. Alternating blindingly between defense, magic and repelling-offense - still maintaining foothold.
          
          "Wonderous." Vergil cackled, relenting and finally retreating. Blinking mountains back.
          
          He lazed in awe. A smile creeping across his reptilian features.
          
          Cid coughed, choked and slipped ungainly to his knees. Retching. And heaving.
          
          Vergil blissfully turned. Elevating the Yamato.
          
          An clean strike and a sideward cleave. Injuring space itself.
          
          Void bled; conjuring a portal.
          
          "I lack this motivation."
          
          Without more words.
          
          Any farewell.
          
          Three-days of battle ended.
          
          (Ps: If you don't think Cid is impressive here.
          
          Vergil canonically hits harder than even an Olympian.)

Shadowofthyself

@FoulEncoder471 Indeed, but Aurora could also be Diablos, or a subset of it ?
          There are theories that Aurora may be the "benevolent" or pacified/weakened form of the Diablos demon. Which is why she is constantly referred to the witch of calamity, and said to have "deceived" Cid by Nelson. Maybe taking a womanly form is all a defense mechanism, and part of a darker story. Though, I do really like the theory that Aurora was simply altered by the Diablos Demon. (I just think it's not as dark as the former one.)
          
          Oh, still something. So that counts.
          
          Ahhh, I've seen that one. You know, Cid really actually took something as basic as an explosion, and turned it into all forms of Art.
          
          That's substantial, and quite thought-provoking. I enjoyed it. 

Shadowofthyself

@FoulEncoder471 Very plausible and feasible. I tend to view it as something flexible and none-fixed - something that alters and changes in correspondence to what Shadow experiences or undergoes, sort of like a saiyan's Zenkai boost (everytime they are brought closer to death, they incrementally become stronger.) So he literally has no limits, as long as he can keep encountering stronger (and multiversal) opponents.
          
          Star-level is cool, I may adopt it as a headcanon alongside the "flexibility" conception, mainly because Shadow being equal to a large-star might not be too far-fetched or out of reach.
          
          Aurora and Elizabeth were somewhat nerfed from prolonged inactivity, but yes. They do give credence to it too.

Shadowofthyself

Vergil (DMC 5) Vs Cid (TEIS). This happened in some alternate reality by the way. (And has always been something I've wanted to write X3)
          
          "Let's settle this." Vergil agreed, a healthy-wrinkle hardening his eyes. A harsh gleam, bifurcating the hollowed chasm when he introduced Yamato via the spring of a thumb.
          
          Cid smiled, and produced himself with a relinquishing - deceptively discordinated - gait. Battered feet dislodging loose gravel and grainy-soil.
          
          The sombre sun illuminated the two would-be-fighters as they respectfully began relaxing and assuming disciplined - demonic slanting, human slouching - poses.
          
          An errant piano-note tinged.
          
          Cid flew meters away, wheeling aerially after Vergil parried his distance-outraging kick. 
          
          Another musical-note spiked, chorus-like and angellic. And he (Cid) disappeared.
          
          Vergil effortlessly denied the attack from behind, and smugly smiled. Revealing wrinkly eyes, alongside an infectious mischievous mood.
          
          "Take me seriously." He whined, swivelling performatively to address the purplish apparition, as it stole into the backdrop.
          
          "-or you'll sorely regret it." 
          
          His voice hollowed, blue energy-loops pulsing outward to present the Devil-trigger form. And regal reptilian-legs.
          
          Black wavy-hair rocked down yards away as Cid dropped, and charged fearlessly.
          
          "Many, would have ran." The demon approved, diverting another kick, before slashing without meditation. Seemingly severing the boy apart with numerous arcs of blue.
          
          "I ....." The voice rumbled.
          
                                    "Am ....." It hastened, purple magic crackling and burning snappily.
          
                           
                                      "-ATOMIC !!" It exploded as its wielder descended and struck.
          
          "What a waste of my time." A demon expressed, even as the authentic atomic bomb crashed and detonated dully.

FoulEncoder471

@Shadowofthyself Sorry I should have clarified, Aurora is Diablos (Or at least a part of it) but "Diablos" was created by inserting the blood from the demon from the first realm, which was used for the original model. The info came from Vol 4.
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FoulEncoder471

@Shadowofthyself I agree with this scaling you have, but there is one thing: The demon they were referring to was the biological model they used for "Diablos" which originated from the first realm, and it was what they used insert the demonic blood into Aurora (highly implied to be how she got her powers as well as the 3 Heroes, similar to Akane with the demon beast blood in Volume 4).
            
            And the game scaling wasn't official, but it was calculated, and that was just a lower iteration of the atomic.
            
            For the scaling of the original atomic's I would say: 
            
            Almost Atomic/"Atomic, sorta" (Building Level, it was enough to level a small area around the forest at least the size of a building while saving Zeta in their first encounter)
            
            Rising Atomic (Already explained)
            
            Archetypal Atomic (Town Level+, the AP was larger than the entire town area Shadow and the shades were besides, demonstrated simply to show off to Victoria when they first met)
            
            That's all for me tbh.
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Shadowofthyself

@Shadowofthyself @FoulEncoder471 I may not agree about Fenrir being that powerful. I've heard sources say that he is definitely as impressive (and you have done nice research), but Fenrir may not entirely be c-level. (And even if he was, that still pales to what Shadow Garden are capable of) Fenrir is deadliest and formidable because of his obscene speed, experience and the blood-fang. He's sort of like a cheese fighter. Someone with the ability (and knowledge) to kill you before you slightly perceive it. Elizabeth is undeniably very very powerful, and Aurora easily dispatching her says alot about how powerful the witch is.
            
            And Aurora not being able to effectively copy Cid's: I am all-ranged atomic is largely due to the limitations of Claire's human body. And the fact that it is a very complex, and unorthodox technique. (Not easy to copy/perform at all).
            
            Aurora is (allegedly) a demonic entity from a realm seperate from humanity, Fenrir is still very much a swordsman. He would definitely defeat a weakened sanctuary Aurora. That could probably be his ego, or unawareness of the Witch's strength. As I believe only Cid can defeat a full-powered Aurora.
            
            True, Cid was mainly in awe and confusion at Fenrir's technique, and that was basically it. When he got serious, the fight was decidedly over. But that may not mean he is considerably powerful than Aurora. Cid has readily acknowledged that Aurora is talented, and a beast when he battled her weakened self in the sanctuary, and expressed desire to face her at her full strength.
            
            He may had trounced her then, but he readily accepted that she is incredibly powerful. Which could imply that he respects, and is rightfully wary of her strength.
            
            That's somewhat new to me. I have seen the suggestion. That Cid could adopt and master some of her techniques. But he's a beast himself.
            
            That's cool, I didn't know the game had their official scaling.
            
            I like it, and how comprehensive you are ;3
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