TheIrishRain

Okay we're all camren shippers here but I wanna know if people actually believe camren was real at some point? 
          	
          	I'm gonna hella condense my answer or else I will not stop ranting on lmao 
          	
          	I think camren was real, to what capacity? I do not know. But, I do think there was more than friendship between the two of them, no matter what anyone says I feel that deep in my heart they shared a connection beyond friendship. 
          	
          	I do also believe that is why Lauren took it harder when Camila left at the time but that is like only a tiny reason she reacted the way she did because of course a lot went on that we will never know about, like how Camila actually went about leaving etc...
          	
          	No hate or disrespect at all to anyone but I don't know how people think the girls are still lowkey together, I don't even think they are friends or speak at all which sucks but such is life, guess that is why writing my story helps me keep the ship alive in my heart and memories. 
          	
          	Again no disrespect to anyone, I'm all for people having their own thoughts and opinions so long as we all share them respectfully.

undercoverjauregui

I dont think it was real, but it was fun to speculate in the beginning. I do think it quickly took an uncomfortable turn for everyone involved so I stoped talking about it and just read my fanfics in silence. I see a lot of people bringing up the fact that Lauren spoke on it a lot as evidenced that it was real to some capacity. I just think that’s an unfair assumption to make bc Lauren only spoke up bc it was affecting her actual relationships. To this day ppl still comment crazy things when she has a new partner. That paired with the fact that she’s the only one out of the two that’s openly queer of course she felt the need to speak on it. I’ve always felt that “Camren” negatively impacted her compared to Camila. Like because Camila never spoke on it and Lauren always shut it down a lot of Camren shippers have this weird animosity towards Lauren. Idk just something I’ve been noticing over the years. 
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Honeyytheeater

Yess 100% like i definitely feel like they had something going on that was more than friendly especially because Lauren reaction to Camila leaving ever since has just been like she’s holding a grudge cause she was so hurt 
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TheIrishRain

@Dinahsbitch you should! I've always understood Lauren's stance but she gave it so much extra attention by speaking on it so much imo
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TheIrishRain

Okay we're all camren shippers here but I wanna know if people actually believe camren was real at some point? 
          
          I'm gonna hella condense my answer or else I will not stop ranting on lmao 
          
          I think camren was real, to what capacity? I do not know. But, I do think there was more than friendship between the two of them, no matter what anyone says I feel that deep in my heart they shared a connection beyond friendship. 
          
          I do also believe that is why Lauren took it harder when Camila left at the time but that is like only a tiny reason she reacted the way she did because of course a lot went on that we will never know about, like how Camila actually went about leaving etc...
          
          No hate or disrespect at all to anyone but I don't know how people think the girls are still lowkey together, I don't even think they are friends or speak at all which sucks but such is life, guess that is why writing my story helps me keep the ship alive in my heart and memories. 
          
          Again no disrespect to anyone, I'm all for people having their own thoughts and opinions so long as we all share them respectfully.

undercoverjauregui

I dont think it was real, but it was fun to speculate in the beginning. I do think it quickly took an uncomfortable turn for everyone involved so I stoped talking about it and just read my fanfics in silence. I see a lot of people bringing up the fact that Lauren spoke on it a lot as evidenced that it was real to some capacity. I just think that’s an unfair assumption to make bc Lauren only spoke up bc it was affecting her actual relationships. To this day ppl still comment crazy things when she has a new partner. That paired with the fact that she’s the only one out of the two that’s openly queer of course she felt the need to speak on it. I’ve always felt that “Camren” negatively impacted her compared to Camila. Like because Camila never spoke on it and Lauren always shut it down a lot of Camren shippers have this weird animosity towards Lauren. Idk just something I’ve been noticing over the years. 
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Honeyytheeater

Yess 100% like i definitely feel like they had something going on that was more than friendly especially because Lauren reaction to Camila leaving ever since has just been like she’s holding a grudge cause she was so hurt 
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TheIrishRain

@Dinahsbitch you should! I've always understood Lauren's stance but she gave it so much extra attention by speaking on it so much imo
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renm91

Dont mind me.just peeping in to see how everything is going lol can't wait for the next chapter!

TheIrishRain

@renm91 Thank you for following! I appreciate you very much! 
            
            Everything is going well lol, I'll keep you up to date that chap 28 is already written and edited, I'm also currently halfway through chap 29 but I just haven't decided when to post 28 because it is early week and many people might not see the update drop so I'm a bit conflicted on that 
            
            So happy to see you're enjoying the story!
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TheIrishRain

someone tell me if camren is kinda big on tiktok or social media in general since I have no social media lol I just wanna know if the camren shipping base is still big  asf or not 
          
          I know ofc it won't be as big as it once was but I'm assuming it's still pretty massive?
          
          inform me pls lmao

Dinahsbitch

@TheIrishRain I get that I don’t make camren content mostly because same reason but I have edits in my drafts of them 
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TheIrishRain

@Dinahsbitch Oh I wouldnt be making any lmao, I mean I would love to if I knew how to do so. Maybe it's something I will think about dipping my toe into this year, I just wouldnt be promoting my books on there or anything like that in case the antis found them and mass reported them to get them taken down lol
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Dinahsbitch

@TheIrishRain if you did I would totally watch it
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TheIrishRain

What's your mount rushmore of 5h songs? 
          
          Mine in no particular order 
          
          -Scared of Happy 
          -Don't Say You Love Me 
          -Work From Home 
          -Sledgehammer / Flex (I cannot choose lol) 
          
          Fav ot5 song I think is Scared of Happy(or Work cause I'm basic asf lol) and ot4 is Don't Say You Love Me. 
          
          I love pretty much all of the ot5 songs (only like a few ot4 ones) so this is hard asf to make a decision on but overall I think those are my absolute favs.

1000camren

Amazing question!
            Going nowhere
            That’s my girl
            1000 hands
            Don’t wanna dance alone
            If I could I could add Anything could happen to this list, I would! And I BEG they somehow release the studio version of Tellin me - that’d probably be my #1
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Dinahsbitch

@TheIrishRain I also want some Lauren unreleased songs like Inside and one I found on YouTube called Never Let Up
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TheIrishRain

BA31st just hit 7k reads! 
          
          Honestly, I could of never imagined the story would be received so well and I am beyond grateful for every single person who reads the story, from the silent readers to the voters, you're all amazing and I cannot thank you enough! 
          
          When I came back to the fandom last year I honestly thought it would be pretty dead since it's been so long since the ot5 and camren days but although the fandom may not be what it once was, it truly is still very much alive on this platform which warms my heart to see. 
          
          My goal overall when I started the story was for one day in the future for it to hit 10k reads, may not seem like much but with the current Wattpad algorithm I genuinely wasn't expecting the story to reach many people so the fact I am nearing my overall goal I had while the story is still ongoing is genuinely amazing to me and lowkey makes me tear up. 
          
          I think I will hit my goal within the next year or so and anything beyond that is just an added bonus, the story has quite a few chapters left to go but it is coming to an end within the two months for sure all depending on how often I get updates out. 
          
          Just know I may not talk about every milestone the book hits but I am always blown away when I see the number of reads climb nearly everyday. 
          
          Time to push on and get the rest of these chapters out, it's gonna be extremely emotional when it does come to an end but all good things must come to an end eventually. 
          
          Camren always and forever <3 
          
          -Rain.

TheIrishRain

@Dandan0_3 Thank you so much for your continued support! It genuinely means the world to me, coming back after all these years to see my book doing pretty well is such a heart warming feeling honestly. 
            
            10k is the ultimate goal! But it will be interesting to see how the story grows once it is completed. Thank you again my love! ❤
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TheIrishRain

@1000camren thank you! next project is gonna be extremely different but I'm looking forward to it
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TheIrishRain

@4evaCamilaCabello Thank you so much! I really appreciate it, thank you for giving the story a chance and I hope you enjoy!x
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Dinahsbitch

I'm suing wattpad It restarted me on your book and I don't even remember what part I was at

TheIrishRain

@Dinahsbitch ofc you'll still remember and people shouldn't tell you otherwise but defo being older you could engage more in it all is more so what maybe may mean. 
            
            I was in a hardcore camren spiral for a week or so there and now I'm out of it again so I'm not watching them much atm, I can't be delusional and nostalgic all the time lmao
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Dinahsbitch

@Dinahsbitch yeah I get that alot people think where I was alot younger I don't really remember much but I remember it all and watching the things over again bring memories and its sad to watch them but I enjoy watching them
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TheIrishRain

I get so HEATED whenever I scroll through Lauren's tiktoks and there's people in the comments just bashing camren shippers still to this day, like bro? How tf are you going on about 'loving one another' then gotta constantly drag people down for having an opinion you don't like? 
          
          I get it, invasive shippers caused a lot of issues and there is no denying that but Jesus bro the way we have been told to get over the camren thing they need to get over that camren shippers exist, like everyone just needs to stay in their own lane. 
          
          Shipping camren is not a bad thing and disliking the ship isn't either. Each to their own, I swear people just love to glaze tf outta celebrities in hope to get a little heart from them on their comments lmao 
          
          Rant over.

TheIrishRain

@slt4cc Oh, see I am not on twitter at all so I really did not know that! I completely agree with everything that you have said, there is too many invasive shippers which continue to overstep boundaries. I understand why especially Lauren is how she is and why people really dislike camren shippers because majority of them active on social media are just too invasive and hateful which makes me ashamed of them for continuing to worsen the bad image we already have. 
            
            I love what camren was and think it WAS real but in the sense of irl, it's done and been done for a long time. Shippers need to stick to reading fanfics and leave the girls to it irl.
            
            Completely agree with you and thank you for filling me in on that!
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slt4cc

i like camren and all. and i do agree that there is no need to bring them up on either lauren or camila's posts. however, if you're on twitter, you'll see many of them being weird and invasive towards the girls' personal lives up untill now. i don't really follow lauren much on social media as i am more of a camila stan, but i've observed countless shippers attacking camila's relationships. just a few days ago there were numerous shippers hating on her boyfriend and making baseless assumptions about him. please don't take this the wrong way, im not here to defend him, im just stating how invasive and hurtful that would be to camila. the rumours also spread out online and create this negative narrative on camila. im not saying that they should like him, i just wish some of them would tone the negativity down and just ignore him. we can't force the the girls to date who we want them to. and personally, i really don't care who they end up with as long as they're happy and thriving. i think it's just better if those shippers are a bit more respectful and considerate of what they say because the narrative and the hate falls on their fave. 
            
            i know not all shippers are like that but i do understand where the distaste from other non shipper fans online are coming from. tho, that's just my two cents and i am in no way trying to spread hate or steer up any arguments here :D
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TheIrishRain

@MistyFCS no problem at all! I will double check soon to make sure I have voted on all of your chapters! Thank you for wanting to do the same for me! I really appreciate it! Your next non g!p book I will make sure to check out! <3
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TheIrishRain

I have chapter 26 done and edited and lowkey feel tempted to drop it right now, but in order to stay ahead and make sure I have time to write other chapters I think it's best just to wait. 
          
          Chapter 26 will drop Wednesday BUT if I can bang out chapter 27 tonight then it will be sooner :)

TheIrishRain

@Dinahsbitch Nah your vocab is just fine, I really was enjoying Crimson Vows when I was reading it and I'm sure I will enjoy your new story just as much!
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Dinahsbitch

@TheIrishRain I get that, my vocabulary and stuff is not good for long chapters its barely good enough for the 1k I do now lmao
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TheIrishRain

@Dinahsbitch just go with the flow then, update as much as you like! I write 4k plus chapters so I can't write as many chapters super quick which is why I need to take a few days between updates
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