@U_N_Owen_was_bahthub yeah but that's probably the hardest person to forgive, because you've been with yourself your entire life, you know about every single bad thing you've done, every single person you've hurt, whether purposely or not, you know every single negative comment or terrible thought or bad action. And even when you try to forgive yourself, it's so easy for that guilt to just creep in and grow back, it doesn't even have to be guilt, just bad feelings and grief and grossness on yourself. But hey maybe there comes a point at a certain age like when ur 70 and you just kinda gave to.