VeritableGalanthus

@SugarCookieLove ...And I suppose "No one likes a smart butt. Get over yourself" was a nice thing to say? Also, correct me if I'm wrong but "smart butt" is rude isn't it? It's not something I'd see people saying in polite social occasions so it must be rude.
          	 Hence, please come back and give me advice when you can do it without laughable hypocrisy. I apologize if your comment was intended comedic irony but I really can't believe you have the required wit or intelligence to do such a thing.

IamAPenguin

You're an amazing writer, I also believe in evolution and last year in biology we wrote  test about Lamarck 's evolution theories about the short necked giraffe that evolved into long neck and then Darwin's theory about survival of fittest. I really enjoyed your stories and people should not let religion in the way of reality. Keep on the good work,if Christians don't like what you're writing,then why are they reading it? They should stop shoving people into their belief and let them be.

VeritableGalanthus

@SugarCookieLove ...And I suppose "No one likes a smart butt. Get over yourself" was a nice thing to say? Also, correct me if I'm wrong but "smart butt" is rude isn't it? It's not something I'd see people saying in polite social occasions so it must be rude.
           Hence, please come back and give me advice when you can do it without laughable hypocrisy. I apologize if your comment was intended comedic irony but I really can't believe you have the required wit or intelligence to do such a thing.

VeritableGalanthus

@Jesus_Loves_You So my basic points are these.
          1)She asked the question, I answered it.
          2) It is important to know the "facts" concerning other beliefs because it gives your choice more credit. You shouldn't just choose one belief because you don't really understand the others, that's a really closed and limited perspective. You're free to believe God made the world in seven days but you should also know some people believe it was developed gradually over millions of years or that some ancient legends say it was created due to a battle between ice giants and gods.
           So be a believer of whatever you like but don't be ignorant.

VeritableGalanthus

@Jesus_Loves_You Firstly, getting beaten as a child probably wouldn't affect your religious views (unless you were beaten in the name of some religion or assaulted by a priest in which case that might put you off religion a bit but that's clearly not the case here).
           I was preparing to agree to disagree but she was the one who first asked the question. The question in question was "If we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?"
           Should I have just ignored that question and let her think that there wasn't an answer? Leave her in the misguided belief that science was as clueless about the theory of evolution as she clearly was?
           No, because a question asked needs an answer. So I merely provided the "facts" as an answer. What annoyed me was that she failed to even try to understand what I was saying. She was the one who asked the question. She has a responsibility to understand the very comprehensive answer I gave her.
           The only judgments of character I made came from the fact she didn't even try to understand what I was saying (Understand NOT believe. She's free to believe what she likes but at least she should know and understand the other options out there so as not to have a very closed perspective). So really whether she was beaten or not, whether she's an orphan or a suicide case bares no reflection on the religion centered debate i was trying to have and I really do not care.

Jesus_Loves_You

Look If you honestly feel bad about what you said you would tell her not me. And I will not be shoved into whatever you have against her. You know nothing about her background. She could have been beaten as a child and wattpad is the only way she has to get away from that. Yet you almost seem to bully her. I'm not going to say for a fact that you are but just try to keep it in mind that what you can say hurts people's feelings.
          
          By the way as a Christian you don't believe in evolution, so telling us all of your 'facts' isn't going to change what we believe so it would pointless to care about it (From our view). Do you understand where I'm coming from?
          
          Just try to watch what you say. I don't want you to be kicked off because you said something you did not intend to hurt someones feelings.

VeritableGalanthus

@Jesus_Loves_You Look, the only issue I hold with her deleting the other messages is that now you cannot see how the entire argument developed. I asked whether she disbelieved evolution when she said she "believed the bible was 100% true". She replied to my question by asking "of we evolved from monkeys why are there still monkeys", to which I did my utmost to provide an explanation. She then replied to this with a "If you take kids from Alaska and put them in Florida they wouldn't evolve", I then explained exactly why that does not work as a counter argument. In this process I suggested she was ignorant (ie, she lacked knowledge, different from stupid and she did lack knowledge concerning evolution. Whether you know a fact or not is not a matter of intelligence but merely of whether you have been taught it comprehensively as I was trying to do) She took this the wrong way and started using expletives. Basically, I did not begin the conversation in order to upset her. I merely corrected incorrect knowledge she had concerning evolution (whether she then chooses to continue to believe in the bible literally or not having comprehended evolution is an entirely different matter and her own choice).
          
           In the end I did call her stupid. Not because she believed the bible was 100% true, NOT because she was American. But because she was refusing to understand new knowledge (whether you believe in evolution or not you should know what it is. I don't believe in the Christian God but I more or less know the creeds and decrees of the bible as well as the general creation story).
          
          
          To summarize. I did start by just "saying so" but then she asked questions which were challenging evolution, so I merely replied in a comprehensive and logical fashion.
          
          I apologize for remarking on her misspelling. That, I admit, was a rather cheap shot but at that stage I was rather irate at your friend's stubborn refusal to understand the opposing argument. 

Jesus_Loves_You

@VeritableGalanthus Look man I get you need to make your self feel important and smart but making people cry is not OK. So think before you write something down. My friend almost killed her self because of people like you. And no it  was not Cutie_Cow. But honestly she does have a right to delete all her comment because she doesn't want to have anything to do with you. Just because she is from the USA doesn't make her stupid. She believe in God. Plus she is dyslexic so she messes up different letters and homophone. She takes all honors classes at her school. So she is not stupid. If you don't believe what she does all you have to is say so.
          
          That's all I wanted to say.
          
          JESUS LOVES YOU!!! 

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