@caniusethisonepls i feel like with your first point, i would personally hate to give birth to a child and then give it up for adoption, i feel like it would bring the child into an awful, lonely and unstable life and personally if i were a pheotus i would much rather die than be born and go into the whole adoption thing. plus asking a teen or unprepared woman to go through labour even if it isn't going to affect her health long term is quite a dramatic thing, then having to give up a baby to someone else to look after? you have no idea what is going to happen to your child, and in this situation i would feel like a far more awful person than just killing a bundle of cells in my stomach. it's true that surgeries for under 18 year olds can backfire and i agree that it might be best to hold that back, but hormones are no where near deadly and hormone blockers completely reversible too. your points about economy i totally agree with, i think our views overlap in many places. nice discussing with you!!