80sg0thIc_mia

So I dont want to be put in the same pot as Cloe Walsh (I didn’t even know who that is) or Noah Shnapp and other Zios, because I wouldn’t call myself one. I don’t propagate a Israelian country nor would I ever do that. I more think that there should be one country for all those people, because just allowing one religion in the country (like Israel does) is racist. Both countries have to be united to one multicultural country where all have the same rights.
          Nobody can be killed. 
          And I never even knew how many people and babies  were killed, because here they only talk about the hostages and never about the Palestine people.
          I really apologise for anything I typed, because I have no idea about this topic. I am in the German politics in a young party, but like already said they told us stuff that’s not right or just in their interest. 
          
          Mia

80sg0thIc_mia

@inejscrowqueen yes, I will. For me it is not just propaganda by my country. I once told my parents how Israel is doing a gen0cide and they started screaming at me stuff that I dont want to share here and took away my stuff and grounded me etc. etc. (it was really bad and I got traumatised). They told me stuff like it is not a gen0cide and other stuff, thats too full of hatred. They also told me (we are ethnicly from Bosnia and Herzegowina and Serbia and my mom is from a muslim family, well her father was, but she is an atheistic), that those are only lies from the Hamas and the Iran, becase that was what Muslims "always" did, referring to her family also and also to the Ottoman Empire, that occupied our countries. I grew up with them and then got scared to show my own opinion and forcefully hid mine and just stopped informing myself on this topic, like I used to do, because whenever I mentioned it or something they screamed at me "Are you Palestinian, huh?" or "Are you muslim?" and also told me stuff like they will send me to Plaestine so I can fight there for them if I am so interested in it. That was in early or mid 2024 and after that I just completely stopped looking at other sources except for the TV, because if my parnets saw that I did, they would ground me again and take everything away from me and I love my parents, but they are really against many people.
            But the thing is that the strongest party rn (not the leading dont worry) is AfD and their biggest interest is to remove all Muslims from Germany... Thats like so crazy and I am scared because I am not ethnicly German....
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inejscrowqueen

@80sg0thIc_mia js make sure you educate yourself, on this topic and others which could be deeply affected by propaganda
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80sg0thIc_mia

But to put this to an end, I don’t care if there is Israel or not, I just say that there are people just as innocent as the Palestinians and I by the love of god I couldn’t just tell them to get lost, just as I couldn’t do it to the Palestinians. I know what happened in 1948 but after 70 years and after generations of people (both ethnics living there) I think the best would be to stop Netanyahu, who clearly lost his mind (he is right winged and whatever I know) and to not move any of the people. I once told someone that a one country solution would be good but that would probably bring a civil war, but yeah… We can’t kill or boycotts anyone and that’s not what I wanted to say in my message, I think I was “western brain washed” because after 3 years of listening to the same thing over and over form our teachers I guess I never build my own opinion and just didn’t have one at all. I have to educate myself on that topic more, because I replay didn’t know, that Palestine existed before Israel and many more stuff. Id even know what is happening there anymore, because the news only mention the Ukraine or the “pro Palestine rebel demostrants” or whatever. 
          

80sg0thIc_mia

I just wanted to say that you accused me of being a Zionist. I am not a Zionist. I am just acknowledging all countries in the world, including Kurds and many more. I actually was mid typing a text explaining what I think when I got blocked on your main, but I just wanted to make it straight, because I am not pro Israel. I differentiate between the governments and the countries because it’s not the country attacking, it’s a terror group attacking another terror group (the Hamas). I agree that Israel has gone far too much, I just wanted to say that acknowledging a country doesn’t make you a symphatiser. I have many Palestinian friends who aknowledge Israel, that’s why it’s for me normal too do, because we learned to differentiate. Like for example I don’t say; The Palestines attacked a festival in 2023 but the Hamas. Or I don’t say the Israelian people attacked Palestine, but the Israelian government and Netanyahu did.
          I don’t know about what was before that, because as far as I am educated on that field, the Israelians lived there for centuries just like the Palestine’s did. I am sorry if I am wrong. Also I got educated for years that after 1948 only the Palestinian government and some extremists were attacking Israel, and I genuinely thought that that’s right…
          

mollyjeppers

hey jj, sorry for bothering you i just wanted to apologize to you for any comments i made and if they sounded insensitive, that is not what i intended, i posted a full apology on my account messages, I am grateful you stand up for your beliefs and inform others about it, and even since all this went down I did more research individually to educate myself. any comments i made were not directed at anyone in particular, just what ive seen in general, i know many people both muslim and jew who have been sent threats simply for existing and its wrong and I am sorry you are going through anything similar to that with all of this. I just wanted to explain myself and take full responsibility for anything I said.

mollyjeppers

@emmalineleilawarner thanks i just wanted you to know. i hope you have people irl you can talk to about your frustrations and vent about it, and hopefully you get unsuspended soon!
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emmalineleilawarner

Ikk i saw but couldn’t respond!! Its alrightt
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