farmerabe

@FrolenZan You know, I've been thinking:
          	
          	In canon, why didn't our heroes use the Aura Transfer Machine to remove Ozpin's soul from Oscar and put it into a robot body, like Penny's?

quirkstan

@farmerabe That to. But I feel like there is a way for the Aura Transfer Machine to work without any changes to the user’s personality.
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farmerabe

@quirkstan Alternatively, the writers just REALLY suck at their jobs.
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quirkstan

@farmerabe Two possible reasons:
          	  1. Ozpin’s curse is divine in nature. Perhaps there’s some kind of soul bond that prevents him from leaving a current host’s until they’ve passed on.
          	  2.  It was stated that if the plan to transfer the rest of the Fall Maiden powers into Pyrrha was successful, it might have had unknown effects on Pyrrha's psyche and personal identity, merging them with that of Amber. So, if you were to use the machine on Oscar, his soul would also be transferred into the robot’s and not Ozpin’s alone. You’ll basically just be accelerating the Merging process even sooner and creating a new being that’s an amalgamation of Ozpin and Oscar’s personalities as while powered by soul, aura is not the soul itself. Hence, why the Aura Transfer Machine is not an option.
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farmerabe

@FrolenZan You know, I've been thinking:
          
          In canon, why didn't our heroes use the Aura Transfer Machine to remove Ozpin's soul from Oscar and put it into a robot body, like Penny's?

quirkstan

@farmerabe That to. But I feel like there is a way for the Aura Transfer Machine to work without any changes to the user’s personality.
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farmerabe

@quirkstan Alternatively, the writers just REALLY suck at their jobs.
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quirkstan

@farmerabe Two possible reasons:
            1. Ozpin’s curse is divine in nature. Perhaps there’s some kind of soul bond that prevents him from leaving a current host’s until they’ve passed on.
            2.  It was stated that if the plan to transfer the rest of the Fall Maiden powers into Pyrrha was successful, it might have had unknown effects on Pyrrha's psyche and personal identity, merging them with that of Amber. So, if you were to use the machine on Oscar, his soul would also be transferred into the robot’s and not Ozpin’s alone. You’ll basically just be accelerating the Merging process even sooner and creating a new being that’s an amalgamation of Ozpin and Oscar’s personalities as while powered by soul, aura is not the soul itself. Hence, why the Aura Transfer Machine is not an option.
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farmerabe

@FrolenZan Before I begin rewriting Grimm May Cry: Awakening, I first want to determine what the RWBY equivalent to all the enemies and bosses will be.
          
          Will you help me with that?

farmerabe

@FrolenZan I'll have to check it out, then.
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FrolenZan

@farmerabe Anime gta with Devil may cry like combat mechanics, big open world. Its great.
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farmerabe

@FrolenZan People just REALLY hate RWBY, don't they?

B-3NtheHedgehog

@farmerabe Nobody hates rwby ‘fans’. Idk why people keep looking into it when they hate it so much. I don’t think it’s perfect but I still enjoy it. I’d probably talk about it a lot more if not for certain parts of the fandom tbh.
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farmerabe

@FrolenZan Before I start work on GMC, I want to resolve something.
          
          Is Adam using both his AND Jaune's blood to undo (part of) the seal to the Grimmdark kind of dumb?

FrolenZan

@farmerabe Yes. Real Life = Shield reins superme, fantasy = makes you look like an idiot. I honestly have to clarify this because I've had to clarify this with people that love realism in combat. If you want realism, fine you do you, but I've gotten legit scoldings by people who can't understand that I'm not that heavy into realism when it comes to combat.
            
            Story wise, love realism.
            Scenery, love realism.
            World building, love realism.
            Character development, love realism.
            Romance, realism all the way.
            Combat, toss realism out the window.
            
            Heck what made fight choreography so great is that it didn't look realistic. Oh sure some fights need a touch of realism, but standing in a stationary spot, taking damage, in a setting where magic exist. The shield becomes a liability, and I'm sick of looking at it.
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farmerabe

@FrolenZan That makes sense.
            
            That's also what Jaune's first fight with Adam in GMC kind of highlights, isn't it?
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FrolenZan

@farmerabe in terms of real life combat, a shield is an absolute necessity. I can admit that, I even understand the significance of Shield play combat. Its just so boring compared to stylized fast pace combat that DMC made popular. In video games unless the parry and shield system is incredibly generous, im never using a shield.
            
            If you build a character with incredible speed, that last thing you're thinking about is tanking anything. RWBY was so fast pace and protected by aura, it infuriated me that the guy with the largest Aura pool, was trying to go at it as a tank. Armor, and Shield when you can conserve larger Aura if he learned to dodge.
            
            So no, not a fan of Shields. In real life, absolute life saver, better than any other weapon to ensure your own safety. In fantasy, where magic, super speed, and incredible strength is the norm, why is tanking even considered.
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farmerabe

@FrolenZan You know, I just realized that with the backstory I came up with for GMC, the Relics and Maidens kind of aren't a thing anymore.
          
          Is this a problem?

farmerabe

@FrolenZan But I AM open to other ideas- I just think that a Vampire on Remnant would have to be SOMEWHAT related to Grimm, you know?
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farmerabe

@FrolenZan My list would be more like this:
            
            Devil May Cry
            Metal Gear Rising- Revengeance
            Luigi's Mansion (reskinned with Castlevania elements)
            Resident Evil 
            
            And I wouldn't say Mundus is THE Big Bad of my stories so much as it is that, as the Grimm King, a lot of things pertaining TO the Grimm inevitably circle back to him.
            
            Let's not forget, quite a few of the enemies in both DMC 4 AND DMC 5 are creations of Mundus, even though Mundus himself never makes an appearance in either of those.
            
            I simply like the idea of Mundus being responsible for Camazotz, because it shows that even though he was trapped in the Grimmdark, the Grimm King was NOT content to simply send his minions through holes in the barrier, as even the strongest ones were no match for any decent Silver-Eyed Warrior or Dark Knight.
            
            So what better way for Mundus to spread negativity and hasten his return to Remnant than by essentially "rebirthing" himself onto Remnant?
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FrolenZan

@farmerabe Like having a criminal element so you can play with the idea of gangs. Introduce a new subspecies of monsters other than Grimm. Play with the idea of bandit tribes and their influence in wild areas. Point being that while Jaune and Adam are the protagonists of the world, the world feels like its still moving in the background.
            
            Here's an example, let's take the scene in MGR when Raiden shows up in that town wearing a sombrero, and poncho. Add a scene that while he's walking someone is listening to a radio that is broadcasting an event happening somewhere else. Adam gets curious and asks his team what's happening in "Whereever" and they tell him to focus on the mission. Later you reveal in a later story what was happening.
            
            Another example is having the villains reference the other villains in dialog. Like while Jaune is fighting Mundas, Mundas compares Jaune power wise to "that fool Argosax" or "The pretentious Vampire"
            
            I'm trying to stop you from putting locks on your story to leave you room to let yourself add and take away at your leisure.
            
            By adding more factions in the beginning, you'll be able to play with the world more. If you stay beholden to a "THE" big bad, you're gonna make a great story, but it won't compliment your potential.
            
            It'll be an amazing story, but it won't be a Abes Masterpiece story.
            
            However I think you an I should compose a list of all the franchises and series you Plan to blend together into GMC. So far its:
            Devil May Cry
            Metal gear Rising
            Luigi's Mansion
            Resident Evil
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farmerabe

@FrolenZan What exactly is this "original idea for Cinder" I keep hearing about?

FrolenZan

@farmerabe its heartbreaking, i could see RWBY being in some many collabs. Way more than they were able to do now. Its honestly sad how fan fiction is the only thing keeping it alive. It just goes to show how much potential it had.
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farmerabe

@FrolenZan I can understand your frustration, dude.
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FrolenZan

@farmerabe Maybe, but the biggest reason why I call RT morons, is because RWBY had the potential to be a globally celebrated series. Maybe even on par with Harry Potter, or the Lord of The Rings. 
            
            It was born in the right circumstances, under the right conditions, in the Era the internet was in its adolescence. I have never seen a more perfect set of circumstances for generational defining series to take the stage.
            
            AND RT FUMBLED IT!
            
            IT WAS ESSENTIALLY THE FIRST INDEPENDENT ANIMATION SERIES. The first, one that would have been the literal staple. And RT screwed it up.
            
            A perfect but open to interpretation Power system. An amazing cast of characters, a world teeming with potential, monsters that were both creative and simple, all composed under a master of animation with fight scenes the likes of which were never seen before.
            
            To say RWBY has potential, is to say the sky is blue. All that potential squandered in the hands of fools that thought they knew better after their lead animator passed.
            
            For the love of God, Abe, to this day nearly every RWBY fanfiction tributes Monty Oum as a Deity in the stories. Every time I think about what RT did with RWBY, its like watching someone win the literal freaking Lottery, and they ended up losing it all.
            
            The only time I've ever seen a product be born under the perfect set of circumstances, was genshin impact.
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farmerabe

@FrolenZan Be honest with me about something.
          
          Is MGR and RE4's violence much extreme compared to things like DMC and Castlevania?
          
          Adam cutting down humans is a lot different to Jaune and Cardin destroying Grimm, you know?

FrolenZan

@farmerabe I honestly don't think anybody cares. Graphic Violence, non graphic violence. So long as Adam fights like Vergil and Jaune like Dante, readers will have a blast. Just stay true to the source material, and try not to stoop to censoring yourself.
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farmerabe

@FrolenZan The reason I ask this is because one of the YouTubers I subscribe to made a post about Invincible and Conquest's latest fight, and it kind of got me thinking about the violence in my fanfic.
            
            Invincible is one of those stories I cannot fully get into despite liking ideas from it, specifically BECAUSE the violence is ridiculously graphic, and only seems to be that way to differentiate itself from other stories like Superman.
            
            I don't conflate "graphic" with "mature," and now I'm worried the graphic violence of MGR is the only thing setting Adam apart from Jaune in GMC, you know?
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farmerabe

@FrolenZan Let's talk about something non-specific to RWBY for a bit.
          
          I have been told by several people today that if you are writing a fight scene, powerscaling is a focal part of that.
          
          I think that is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.
          
          What is your opinion on this?

farmerabe

@FrolenZan But again, I don't really call that "powerscaling."
            
            It really feels like powerscalers rope that under what they do so that they can weasel their way into fandoms and inevitably annoy people with their inaccurate takes.
            
            They would call what you used as an example powerscaling.
            
            I would call that GROWTH, you know?
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FrolenZan

@farmerabe Power Scaling can be shown a number of ways. To me, my favorite way is when an enemy that was originally annoying, is having a hoard of them being dismantled effortlessly.
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farmerabe

@FrolenZan They say that things like how hard a person hits and how deeply a sword cuts are part of a fight, and thus "powerscaling."
            
            What I want to know is what have they been reading that goes into that much detail?
            
            If a swordsman cuts down a tree in one swing, that isn't the story telling you his power level.
            
            That is the story telling you this guy can cut down a tree in one swing, so he is DANGEROUS, you know?
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