Farmer Abe

@farmerabe in a sense. A Great Author knows how to illustrate any situation into what they want to convey. Making a character you hate but like so much is hard.

@FrolenZan To be fair, I think that's kind of a two-pronged question.
            
            A GOOD author can make characters you root for, then pit them against each other and leave you feeling conflicted, even if you prefer one to the other.
            
            A BAD author makes characters you couldn't care less about, so when they clash, you don't really care who wins.
            
            You know what I'm saying?

@farmerabe good question. No clue

@farmerabe ok, that's fine.

@FrolenZan I HAVE to make the DLC a sequel.
            
            It wouldn't be too hard to tweak it so that Adam becomes Elden Lord, begins reconstruction of the Lands Between,  calls for an end to the oppression of Omen, and so on, only for Miquella to start causing trouble, using forces from the Land of Shadow to do so, forcing Adam to investigate.
            
            Also, I think Adam would skip Rykard because him starting off a sequel by killing the Blasphemous Serpent would be a cool way to show how powerful he has become, you know?

@farmerabe it can't be a sequel. Through the story, its revealed that the events of the DLC happen before the tarnish ascends the throne.
            
            You could make it a side story, and give dialog hints that he experienced the events of the DLC. Like during his battle with Melania he reveals that Miquella is dead and he killed him.
            
            Also why would you skip any shard bearer. I can understand not bothering with all those bosses, but the Shard Bearers are the must battle of any elden ring fan fiction.

@farmerabe exactly, so just let him keep his memories.

@FrolenZan I know Tarnished are looked down upon.
            
            It's just that almost no one in Elden Ring aside from like Kenneth does that to you, as they are Tarnished themselves.
            
            If anything, Adam would get more flak for his horns, but even then, more people would be confused by them, because he sure doesn't resemble any Omen they are familiar with, you know?
            
            

@farmerabe then it wouldn't be Adam. It'll be someone who looks like him being watched by people who knew him, but only having a memory of oppression. You forget that Tarnished are looked down upon.
            
            No, i think its best he keeps his memory. This should be Adam in Elden Ring, not a Tarnished who looks like Adam in Elden Ring.

@FrolenZan Oh, I do, regardless of whether I hear from him or not.

@farmerabe I hear you, keep him in your prayers.

@FrolenZan Thanks, man.
            
            I know I'm probably getting anxious about nothing, but a lot of other people who haven't heard from him in a while (he's a YouTuber) are getting impatient and theorizing that he's dead, and that isn't really helping me, you know?

@farmerabe I think you finding your motivation again would make him proud! So, as the blue man says, “Show me your motivation!”

@FrolenZan Yeah, I will admit I probably could have gotten to work writing sooner.
            
            I just couldn't find the motivation.
            
            Man, Vergil would be so disappointed...

@farmerabe I can't think of any off the top of my head. Probably the long hiatus.

@FrolenZan That, or he's defeated, and Team RWBY, their kids, and several generations don't have to worry about him.
            
            But because this time was his WORST attack yet, people are going remember him for centuries.

@farmerabe Either he dies to the current generation, or becomes an issue for the later generations. If that's the case, then you should only have them fight Grimoire and defeat him once. Cause if you keep bringing him back to fight the current generation(CG), you're going to have to kill them off so the next generation(NG) can fight him. Simply because you can't expect readers to believe the CG would sit back and let the NG fight that monster. Only way to justify it, is for the CG to die.

@FrolenZan I kind of DO like the idea of RWBY's kids beefing with the Grimoire, though.
            
            Or at least a successor for him...

@FrolenZan Yeah, that sounds about right.

@farmerabe you stated it multiple times that your issue wasn't with Yang, it was CRWBY's poor mishandling of Yang and her faults you were pointing out. They understood to a certain extent, but assumed that your fault was trying to pin all the blame on Yang. You didn't articulate that you had just as much of an issue with Ruby, and that's where I guess the divide was.
            
            King Keiro however wasn't trying to listen, and I saw that he would disregard your arguments. At most I think he was trying to push his stance too much and reacted negatively when it became apparent you weren't going to budge.

@FrolenZan That is true.
            
            I guess I thought he was only repeating the same argument over and over again.
            
            Then he started to get personal, like the other guy, so better to just end it there before he pushes another button.
            
            …They DO know I don't hate Yang, right?

@farmerabe the issue is that Cardin needs to change, much like Blake does. Two stupid people cant fix each other.

@farmerabe Blake

@FrolenZan Well, who do you think is the bigger coward?

@farmerabe and I don't mind giving it.

@FrolenZan Okay then.
            
            I'll still probably need your advice now and then, though.

@farmerabe you can never disappoint me when you're letting your creativity free. I'd you write the story you want, than the story I think is best. Maybe you see a structure I can't see, and I want to trust that.
            
            You're fine, and I'm looking forward to the story, however you write it.