Farmer Abe

@farmerabe true

@FrolenZan I never had too much fun with them, unless they were obviously just erotic slop.
            
            Even then, though, you might as well have it go the James Bond route at that point.
            
            Why have Jaune have a harem when hooking up for a bit of fun without being in an active relationship exists?

@farmerabe because the other stories were just as compelling. Read a well crafted story centered around a ship, and do the same with a different ship yet the same Male character, it puts into motion the idea that the single Male character is perfect for all the other girls.
            
            Thus when a harem story is crafted you don't question how each female character could love the same guy. Simply because I was imposing a different story's relationship progress.
            
            This was a mistake as after I stopped doing that, harem stories were becoming annoying, as every character seems to be absent a collective number of brain cells. I find it better when a single ship is the focus, instead of a harem. The Female character is given room to grow rather than compete, and the Male character is juggling multiple outcomes just to maintain their relationship. Which in all honesty has to be handled, as its not very convincing otherwise.
            
            They were fun before, now they are annoying.

Chuck Norris did not die he just went to a world that needed Chuck Norris 

@farmerabe Chuck Norris died Years ago, its just Death finally built up the courage to tell him.

@FrolenZan I'm sorry, man.
            
            Well, I'm sure you'll get a chance eventually, but I'd advise you to stay away from anything related to the game until then, if you want to go in blind.
            
            It's honestly kind of funny, though, because what if I told you that Leon is who I see an adult GMC!Jaune behaving like, despite him being based off Dante?

@farmerabe no not yet. My job is in the middle of an annoying time of the year. Until it passes I can't relax.

@FrolenZan To be fair, the remake fixes a lot of the plot points that don't make sense in the original.
            
            Then again, the remake might also allow me the opportunity to tweak it so that a seven-year-old girl could still help her father out of a jam.
            
            I'd need to play it again first, though.
            
            Speaking of video games, have you had a chance to play Resident Evil: Requiem yet?

@farmerabe Abe the truth is I can't add anything to this. You want to write the Monster turned Saint, that's fine, but I want you to really think on this. Is an infallible Hero really the smart approach for the RWBY meets DMC crossover you're trying to build.
            
            Cause here's what my experience with you is telling me is going to happen. Absolutely nothing will come out of a backstory like that. Its not going build curiosity, its not going to build attention, it'll just be a background setting.
            
            Now that's not in itself an issue. In fact I think its incredibly the smart move. It'll be less work, less headaches to form continuity, and in general it'll let you focus on the meat of the story you want to focus on.
            
            However that's A Class level author ability. Fine but there is that potential S Class level that's missing.
            
            In my opinion I think the history of Ozma should be handled as legends that are slowly revealed through out the Story. Never shown, but that his influence is felt through out each story installment. It should be a blue print that stokes the readers curiosity.
            
            Take the Legend of Sparda as an example. To this Day, the reason why Sparda rebelled was never explained. Only that his influence is felt through out the series.
            
            Using the Back Story you made is Good, but it feels like something that is set and done. A monster turned Saint, his journey is done, now he's just existing.
            
            However a Saint turned Monster, yet struggles to do the right thing is fallible. Its a struggle everyone can relate to. A mistake was made, it caused irreparable damage, and for millenniums He's tried to make up for that mistake.
            
            Doesn't that sound more Noble.

@farmerabe I have to let cook. Really marinate in what it is you're saying.

@FrolenZan You know, I REALLY hate it when you do this, right?

@farmerabe Good, but my only hope is that they add, not subtract from the games.

@FrolenZan I think it is necessary, though, dude.
            
            The Brother Gods suck, but I can't say they weren't justified in their handling of Salem.
            
            I want Ozma to have a justifiable reason for killing them, you know?

@farmerabe We weren't thinking that at the time. The idea was to switch up the rolls between Ozna and Salem, then Have Ozma choose different.
            
            If you want to get surgical and dissect the personalities of Ozma further than necessary, I won't stop you.

@FrolenZan Okay, now that needs to be refined.
            
            First and foremost, how do we know that Ozma wouldn't just accept the fact Salem died, or go to the God of Darkness for help first?

@FrolenZan I just finished the game.
            
            I would DEFINITELY recommend picking it up, if you can.

@FrolenZan Pretty solid so far.
            
            It plays pretty much like the remakes of Resident Evil 2 or Resident Evil 4, depending on who you're playing as.

@farmerabe no, how is it?

@farmerabe I thought I did tell you the plot.

@FrolenZan Okay, then would I be better off with a different plot, then?

@farmerabe dang, their story sounded more interesting. I thought this was a story of 2 siblings that build a criminal empire in a world of magic.

@FrolenZan that's the thing, you haven't told me a plot.

@farmerabe in a sense. A Great Author knows how to illustrate any situation into what they want to convey. Making a character you hate but like so much is hard.

@FrolenZan To be fair, I think that's kind of a two-pronged question.
            
            A GOOD author can make characters you root for, then pit them against each other and leave you feeling conflicted, even if you prefer one to the other.
            
            A BAD author makes characters you couldn't care less about, so when they clash, you don't really care who wins.
            
            You know what I'm saying?

@farmerabe ok, that's fine.

@FrolenZan I HAVE to make the DLC a sequel.
            
            It wouldn't be too hard to tweak it so that Adam becomes Elden Lord, begins reconstruction of the Lands Between,  calls for an end to the oppression of Omen, and so on, only for Miquella to start causing trouble, using forces from the Land of Shadow to do so, forcing Adam to investigate.
            
            Also, I think Adam would skip Rykard because him starting off a sequel by killing the Blasphemous Serpent would be a cool way to show how powerful he has become, you know?

@farmerabe it can't be a sequel. Through the story, its revealed that the events of the DLC happen before the tarnish ascends the throne.
            
            You could make it a side story, and give dialog hints that he experienced the events of the DLC. Like during his battle with Melania he reveals that Miquella is dead and he killed him.
            
            Also why would you skip any shard bearer. I can understand not bothering with all those bosses, but the Shard Bearers are the must battle of any elden ring fan fiction.