@CatMint5... thanks for that. I don't think I expressed myself properly. I like strong characters, they always do what they think is right. Doing what you belive in is something I admire. Now when weak characters begin to toughen up and change that is equally good because they are benefiting themselves as well as the people around them. What I don't like is when weak characters realise that they are being pushovers and yet do nothing to change their behaviour and then wallow in self pity.