@incipient hi babe I hope I'm replying to you but thanks for the info! I've probably made millions but who cares. If they said so,etching like this in the first place it would have been much easier :) I will take your suggestion and have a look around... I saw lots of people doing it and read that it was the way to go so figured it was normal, but as I said, oh well. I obviously meant no disrespect. Thanks for your help xxx