HPTiffany
Hey, sorry, the author of the book you answered me on blocked me(literally so sad freedom of speech wise)
I thought I'd answer you here and clarify some things
So for a while before Israel was created there were Jews living in Israel. But those Jews bought land from Palestinians(you can find info online). Actually, you'll find at the time there was much more Jewish land being stolen by arabs. instances of attacks on Jewish villages are numerous
As for what you said about Ethiopian Jewish woman being sterilized, I looked up the story. It seems it was never proven, and also just because of the accusations the Israeli government opened an investigation. That's a beautiful sign of a good country. Israel is well known for flying in Ethiopian Jews with no where else to go. And once in Israel they are given full citizenship, and are given equal rights.
I'm a little confused about what you said about Israel being the aggressor. You said killing people makes them the aggressor, and I get where you're coming from, but in the end of the day, they never started a war. And even now, they continue the war because there are still hostages, almost two years being raped and tortured in Gaza. Do I wish there could be peace, of course, but Hamas has proven time and time again that it's impossible while they're in power.
madmaddidi
And as always, isreal IS the aggressor here. You say the isreali state didn't start the war, but the DID start the expulsion of HUNDEREDS of thousands of native palestinians in the nakba. Isreal didn't start the war, but they did build walls around gaza and and the occupied west bank. Isreal didn't start the war but why do gazan palestinians have to rely on aid trucks for food and other necessities? Isreal didn't start the war, but when palestinians protested peacefully they were shot at and killed. Isreal didn't start the war, but they were slowly killing the palestinian population. And let's not forget isreali soldiers killed their own hostages who escaped, shot while waving white flags. And honestly all those hostages could have been fine if isreal had accepted the deal the resistance forces offered. But the isreali state refused again and again. Why? They want the genocide to continue, they want to wipe out all palestinians (or make them leave in the least) so they can have all the palestine and it's resources. And really, so many of the hostages taken in October said they were treated humanely, sadly we cannot say the same about the palestinian hostages and prisoners. And the only way palestine will have a real chance at peace is when the isreali state is abolished. You cannot build a state on top of another and not expect rebellion. And hamas was never the problem, Hamas didn't exist in 48 when zionists expelled palestinians. Hamas (and the other political and armed factions) was born as a result of the isreali aggression on the native people of palestine.
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@HPTiffany yes, before "isreal" was created jews lived in palestine harmoniously with those of other faiths. After the nakba, those homes were stolen. And yeah, the isreali state flew in other jews from around the world but why? Bc they wanted to populate the land they've stolen. You can't just defend empty land, they needed people to occupy it and defend it. That's why all the settlers are armed with guns and shit and have impunity to do whatever they want to the natives. And sweetheart please, let's be real. Most isrealis aren't even religious, they're there for the free land they get to steal from ethnic palestinians (Christian and Muslim). As for they land they're "buying"? It's still stolen. You can't buy land from an occupier and then say you have the right to live on it bc you paid for it. And yeah, the isreali state said that they're going to investigate the Ethiopian sterilization project they have going on, but truth is, they're the perpetrators in this case, can they really be expected to reveal the truth? No. As for being equal rights citizens, zionists in isreal are literally white supremists, there's definitely not equal rights there or with the supposed equal rights palestinians. I feel like you're trying to "stay neutral" about the palestine-isreal situation but really all you're doing is repeating isreali propaganda. You always say "but isreal didn't start the war, hamas did" but why is gaza totally surrounded by walls? Why do gazan palestinians have to survive on aid trucks to bring them food and other necessities? Why is it that when palestinians in the occupied west bank and gaza want to leave they have to go through so many checkpoints and abuses to even move between villages, let alone leave palestine for better opportunities.
