pattuck418

Released the prologue of Prelude to Retribution. It is what the first chapter uded to be.
          	
          	The rest of the tale will be different. 

msreader310

You unpublished your story
          I wanted to read it after the blurb looked good.

pattuck418

@msreader310 I am an older writer myself. I may havr to return to Inkitt. I used to go on that site for reading and the forums.
            
            I might have to reactivate my account and post there for a change. 
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msreader310

I mostly write on Inkitt. And I've used Inkspired. I've never used Royal Road and had no idea they have forums. This platform used to have forums and better ways to get your book out there, but those features have since been removed. Many stories on Inkitt have been adapted into miniseries and commercials. However, the majority of them are cliché themes, such as bad boy and good girl, or storylines that have been used a dozen times, particularly billionaire and CEO and forced marriage. Most of these stories are told in the first person. 
            
            According to my observations, any book that is not in that style will fail to gain traction online, in general. Books written in the third person are more likely to be picked up by an audience in bookstores. Readers are generally picky about writing styles, but many of them enjoy fantasy or paranormal storylines written in the third person. Readers on AO3 don't mind third-person stories because half of them are fanfictions. I can't read fanfiction because it ruins the fandom I like. 
            
            All online platforms have immature audiences, and many people pass up great books for silly reasons such as stylistic choices. Wattpad is heavily criticized on all websites and forums. When I tell people in person (I'm in my early 40s) that I write webnovels, they immediately insult this platform by calling it "the immature writing site." Wattpad has mostly earned a bit of a reputation over the last 20 years, which is half negative and half positive. I once published books on this platform and boycotted all awards and contests. The judges prefer poor writing, grammar-ridden mistakes, cliché storylines, and first-person works. No one with an incredible story, including The Wattys and Ambys, will have a chance to succeed. Many of the winners have first-person stories. Only a small number are written in another style. @pattuck418
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pattuck418

@msreader310 you just outlined the one pet peeve I have with users on this site. “Write inside this cute little box or else” is an immature and shallow way of approaching writing.
            
            Everything does not have to be in first-person. Most good novels aren’t in that style. And the ones that are fit into the self-insert/fix the broken past cliche that unless you lived it then you will never full relate to the character.
            
            Your better and more sustainable writers do not even give this site a second glance. Royal Road’s forums are replete with people who demean Wattpad every chance they get.
            
            And to speak candidly, few if any, serious authors are taken seriously by reputable publishers if they use this site. 
            
            From what I have heard from folks who attended the last couple of Wattcons there are big changes coming to this site soon because it’s becoming evident that the current state of affairs is far from producing the desired results for Naver, the owner of Wattpad. 
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pattuck418

Update: God had other plans for me in regard to music. He led me to a great praise band for a local ministry. I am also better settled in Florida now compared to where I was earlier. 
          
          And I decided to give this site another go. Besides, I need something to do when I have days off from work, have yard and house work completed, and have nothing else scheduled.  
          
          Let's see how this goes.

OnceUponALily

@pattuck418 That is amazing. Everything seems to be going well for you. 
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Red_Leasia

@pattuck418 that should have said Welcome back, friend!
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pattuck418

In conversation the question came up about Inkitt. Though I am new to Inkitt, I can offer the following advice if any of my followers are interested in the site.
          
          It a good site for writers, however, you must be extremely active on their forums or you will not get any traction at all.
          
          Due to the required forum frequency, it might not be advisable for any Wattpad users who participate in and/or run several contests and book clubs to try out Inkitt. It will prove difficult to be effective on both sites. It’s not impossible but it will require all of your free time to do so.
          
          Please keep that in mind if you are considering writing on Inkitt. 

pattuck418

@MvonSchantz I agree. I don’t either and that’s why it’s the backdrop and not the forefront. 
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MvonSchantz

@pattuck418 That's great, and very interesting! Your book has quickly risen to the top of my list! :)
            
            I should clarify, however, that when I say I write Christian sci-fi or fantasy, I don't mean that I write for a Christian audience. I just mean that I'm Christian and my stories are obviously written from that worldview. But my target audience is not Christian, although I do hope Christians will enjoy them, too.
            
            This is perhaps most obvious in my latest fantasy novel, "Echoes of Fallen Gods", which I hope will appeal to a non-Christian reader as a fantasy story set within a deep mythology. Someone with a passing knowledge of Christian themes might also enjoy it as an allegory. But to me, and hopefully to any Christian reader, it's more literal than that.
            
            It's a theological thought experiment: what if God (that is, the God of the Bible, not just some Jesus-like figure) created a second universe where magic is simply the fifth force of nature, and where, instead of the devil tempting man to fall, it was the other way around - man deliberately invited the fallen spirits into the world.
            
            So in this novel, God, known here as the Word, isn't just a stand-in for our God. He's literally the Word from John 1:1, even though this is an entirely different universe. But the book is still written with a non-Christian target audience in mind, so while this is something that will deepen the understanding of the story for a Christian reader, it is not necessary for a non-Christian audience to grasp in order to enjoy it.
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pattuck418

@MvonSchantz thank you!
            
            My writing has a Christian perspective as well. My characters are flawed and have their weaknesses. They do things they shouldn’t as we all do in our lives.
            
            In my universe, I have references to Christian theology.
            
            El Elyon: God the Father
            
            Jeshua Jiereh: Christ
            
            The Comforting Spirit: Holy Spirit
            
            The Ancient Scrips: The Bible
            
            
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pattuck418

Considering giving this site up or relegating it back up status only.
          
          Good stories here get buried under the same worn cliches and nobody will expand there horizons beyond that. 
          
          It’s frustrating and draining to say the least. Same stuff over and over. And I know I am not the only one who feels this way. 

pattuck418

@Red_Leasia it’s good but you have be a frequent user of their forums or you won’t get much traction. I started getting followers and readers as soon as I posted on their Review forum. Read some good stories too. 
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Red_Leasia

@pattuck418 you are not. How is Inkitt?
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pattuck418

@Iread2much112 No, I'm not going to delete this account. I just wish it was easier to get reads on here. I want people to read my writing. I started writing on a website today called Inkitt. I went to the forums and hadn't been on the site for five minutes after promoting my work and started getting reads and feedback. Wattpad needs up its game on that because it is losing people in droves.
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pattuck418

Unfortunately, my current schedule will not allow time for a book club. But I do have time to enter Prelude to Retribution in a few contests.
          
          I want to reach out to my followers and ask permission to use you as a tag for them. I’ll probably need 3 to 5 as a start. Please let me know if I may use you as a tag. In return, feel free to use me if you ever need a tag for a contest. Thank you in advance. 

pattuck418

First off, Happy Fourth of July to my fellow Americans.
          
          Secondly, I am unpublishing chapters of Prelude to Retribution to make it a better tale overall.
          
          Don’t fret. It isn’t going anywhere. It’s just being recrafted into a much better tale for you to enjoy. And that’s why I write. I do it for others to enjoy. 

pattuck418

I typed in my description of Captain Taleinia Marisala into ChatGPT, and it generated an impressive image of her. If I had a way, I  would share it here.

pattuck418

@OnceUponALily I am also working with ChatGPT to create images for the beginning of each chapter. I have posted images for six chapters so far. 
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pattuck418

@OnceUponALily Thank you! ChatGPT put out some great images of my characters. You should see the one it made for Annalisa. Beautiful, tall blonde woman just reaching her fifties.
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OnceUponALily

@pattuck418 I see the cover. It is amazing!
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