sizzybuzz

One of you has quite rightly pointed out that when the date or time of a chapter drop changes, I announce it on Facebook but do not update readers here. They were absolutely right to call me on it, and I apologise.
          	
          	From now on, any change will be announced on Facebook as usual, followed by an announcement here on Wattpad. Nobody should have to look elsewhere to discover that an update has moved.
          	
          	Thank you for raising it. I will do better. ❤️

Hemmings_queen

So much for this promise lol
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Leeni1960

@sizzybuzz Hi Lola, is the new chapter dropping tonight ?  Coz there is no notification on FB ?  Or did I miss the new date ?
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sizzybuzz

@Aziroses  My page is called L.L. Paris - Author. If you search that exact name on Facebook, you should find me ❤️
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Deb1166

Does anyone think that James will have a medical emergency ---stroke/heart attack?  He was displaying symptoms that would send me to the emergency room.  
          It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that David suffered a life changing trauma with the discovery of his adoption papers.   What were his coping defense mechanisms that helped him not reveal the truth to anyone until Graces birth?  He didn't repress or deny the knowledge because he talks about it being with him since he was 14.  David said he had photo copies of his adoption papers in a safe place-- possibly his office.  Did he accidentally come across them--from, maybe on his 40th birthday and that was the trigger for kissing Ava for the first time?  If that is true, was seeing the papers again  his rationalization for starting the affair?  I hope that, now that the cat is out of the bag, we will see healing and growth for David.  Let me be clear, nothing justified his affair with Ava.  He picked the worst way possible to cope with a devastating emotional trauma.  Looking forward to seeing the fallout of James's confession.  So many people will 
           be affected by this news.  I am specifically thinking about Max and Theo.  Poor Kathryn--James's will probably be hoping for a medical emergency when she gets done with him.  
          
          

Deb1166

@Debbie123404
            You have some really good points.  The times would have definitely been different in how James's actions and Kathryn's reactions would be scrutinized.   I hope that bringing all the dysfunction to the forefront will hopefully lead to healthy discussions and a peaceful coexistence between the family members.  It will take work--- a lot of work.  If all parties involved want the same outcome and are willing to do the work,   I believe it will go a long way towards showing Max, Theo and eventually Grace what true love really looks like and how NOT to handle stress.  I am looking forward to seeing how Lola accomplishes the reconciliation between David and Emily. I know that is not a popular wish especially on the chapter end comments but I am a romantic at heart.  I don't see David ever repeating his horrific behavior with anyone if Emily gives him a second chance.
            I am still trying to figure out who sent the video to Emily.  I guess the question is-- Who stood to benefit the most from the fallout of Emily seeing it?  As always,  I enjoy the discussions here--- take care and be well.
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Debbie123404

Deb1166
            Deb2 here and once again, I am in awe of your thoughts. Great questions, I believe many truths can exist at the same time; the impact of our childhoods; both the wonders and heartache impact our adulthoods; insecurities not addressed impact our coping mechanisms but do not forgive/excuse the way/actions we act when those insecurities bleed to the surface ie the need to feel needed/the affair/the superficial gratification/the fear of failure and rejection; the pain caused lead to  consequences. As for James and the decisions made during a time 40yrs ago, we must recognize the times were vastly different; THIS IS NOT ME JUSTIFYING the affair or the actions of his “father”; just as Katheryn, making the decisions she made are not only out weakness; the times she lived in, societies impact on the views of women and, yes, the love she felt for James. Her decisions were made at a time most of use could not understand. Understanding circumstances does not mean excusing the behavior; recognizing the behaviors and harm is a different story;,hopefully it can lead to stopping the wheels of dysfunction for this family and developing healthy relationships/understanding and behaviors for the better of the next generation…Max, Theo and Grace. They deserve the best of all who love them. I am still hoping for a HEA for Em and David…one fueled by accountability/change/truth/respect and yes, a foundation of love. If it cannot be based on a wheel of hope and new coping mechanisms, 
            than let the children see parents and other adults be less judgmental and instead listen to them, be supportive of their love for both parents and each other. 
            
            It is not my intent to preach. I enjoy exchanging thoughts on this particular site; respectfully and a safe place to honestly hear other views. Thank you to Lola for providing such a great story that evokes so many emotions and thoughts. You are truly talented. 
            
            Once again, Deb1166 for opening the door to another great discussion. Be well. 
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Leeni1960

@reremay1991 Yeah, that book should be revised by Emily to include all the new information she now is privy too  :)
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Leeni1960

All this convo we are having here, it occurred to me that it looks more like a Book Club!  Henceforth, just like Oprah's, we can all gather here at Lola's Book Club  :)))

Deb1166

@Debbie123404 
            Very well said Debbie
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Debbie123404

100% agree. This site is a safe place to exchange thoughts/view points…agreeing to agree to disagree is a lost art form in our society. Learning to hear others opinions helps me grow and understand; not always agree but I do appreciate the thoughts of others and thank those willing to share. Be well. 
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Deb1166

Lola
          I hope that David's relationship with Kathryn will not change with the  truth of his paternity being revealed.  David's love for Kathryn is something that has been obvious to me throughout your writing.  This has to be the breaking point for James and Kathryn (I don't see a way back from this betrayal) and possibly James and David.  I cannot wait to see Kathryn light into James.  I should probably get the popcorn ready before I read the next chapter.  Will we ever learn what happened to David's biological mother?  Please tell me that she isn't somehow connected to Ava!!!!!  David needs to sit down with Emily, as soon as possible, and tell her what he believed since he was 14 about his paternity--- and then learning the actual truth behind those adoption papers.  I see fireworks in the future!!!!

Leeni1960

@bea_good That would be absolutely bizarre, don't you think ?  Considering Ava's sis never knew David before or even seen him before that club scene ?  Also, in the 1st bk, Ava had this thing for Emily in wanting to shake up her family life if she had a chance.  Ava only applied to David's firm because she got thrown out of the previous firm where she had an affair with a senior associate ; thus violating the no fraternity policy.
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ajkazarian59

@Deb1166. I have the same hopes too Deb!  Inasmuch as most of us here on this chat are waiting for D and E to make their way back….this is just too much betrayal for James and Kathryn to continue on (J and D as well I think).  David’s bio mom. Would be great if she was connected to Ava (would make the affair all the more creepy). OR maybe she’s someone connected to Naomi (she has always been so maternal in her love of D and E).  Can’t wait for what’s to come!!
            My popcorn is ready and waiting too.
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MittyLou

I’ve always thought maybe his birth mother was the office assistant. The way she ensured Ava ultimately got caught and fired from the law firm. Acting fierce and protective like a mother would.
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Leeni1960

A thought occurred to me ?  How many married women here have never seen your husband's birth cert. ??  Just curious ...

nikbk1972

@Leeni1960 Correct, the only proof is adoption papers. David would have seen his birth certificate and only see Kathryn and James’s names. He would be none the wiser.
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Leeni1960

@nikbk1972 That would make sense if Emily had never seen his actual birth cert then.
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Nanaofkt

When we applied for our passports I saw my husband’s then because I took care of gathering all the paperwork. 
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KroMelo

Lola, I came late to the conversation! I just learned about the new chapter today, and what a wonderful surprise!
          
          James is even worse than I could have imagined. He lied to Katherine and put her in a situation where she ended up raising the product of one of his affairs! I don’t know if this will somehow affect her relationship with David. It’s one thing to think he’s her father-in-law’s son, and another to know he’s the son her husband had with his mistress.
          
          I also wonder what happened to Julia. How did she go from being obsessed with James to giving up any rights to the baby she had just given birth to? Is there more to her story that we don’t know about?

sizzybuzz

One of you has quite rightly pointed out that when the date or time of a chapter drop changes, I announce it on Facebook but do not update readers here. They were absolutely right to call me on it, and I apologise.
          
          From now on, any change will be announced on Facebook as usual, followed by an announcement here on Wattpad. Nobody should have to look elsewhere to discover that an update has moved.
          
          Thank you for raising it. I will do better. ❤️

Hemmings_queen

So much for this promise lol
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Leeni1960

@sizzybuzz Hi Lola, is the new chapter dropping tonight ?  Coz there is no notification on FB ?  Or did I miss the new date ?
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sizzybuzz

@Aziroses  My page is called L.L. Paris - Author. If you search that exact name on Facebook, you should find me ❤️
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bea_good

James and Julia’s affair is similar to David’s and Ava and I recently read some books that shows the same reason for betrayal. OW is young and admires the MMC and makes them feel wanted. It just makes me wonder that does that really happen often in real life or authors just like to explore this reason more often than others. 

bea_good

@Leeni1960 Yes, I feel David is getting better and want him to be redeemed. But when he said to James - “ what a peculiar way to love someone “  that just changed my opinion, that shows he knew what he was doing and still did it.  I want him to be redeemed but I can’t imagine Emily trusting him yet.
            
            Now that we have seen how much a coward James is and David inherited some of it from him by growing up under his roof, it’s only natural to say that Max and Theo may also end up inheriting that if they stay under the influence of these two men.  So, it’s hard to root for David yet.
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Leeni1960

@bea_good Sadly, from the chapter where we witnessed in the story how  Julian stepped up for Emily, I'm afraid my support for David is slowly eroding too.  I mean from that other scene where they meet up for lunch & David was forced to fess up to his crimes against her & the boys, I just don't see how she would want him back in her life ?  New baby or not  ))):
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bea_good

@sizzybuzz- forgot to tag you in my reply. Could you please answer my question. Thanks!
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