@Arter2134 Yeah, THAT movement I could understand. I fully agreed with it but then it became clear that they weren't gonna change gears I figured "whelp, gonna have to move on." But then I started hearing more and more random complaints, and i REALLY stopped taking the fandom seriously when they started saying Majima getting amnesia was "unrealistic" when amnesia was literally a plot point in the first Yakuza game. Then some people in the fandom started saying Yakuza Kiwami was just a boring remake of the original Yakuza game, and that's when I realized "okay, people are complaining just because they wanna be mad about something now." Keep in mind, this was all BEFORE the kagawa incident.