slcwatt55

@KarMa301 @OliviaCarson8 - If We Must Be Monsters - Theory
          	
          	Karma and Olivia - I didn't want to post this to IWMBM just in case I'm right?! I HAVE A THEORY -- but I need your input.
          	MY THEORY: Mireya is NOT the biological daughter of Isabella and Andres. There are many clues -- and the author went out of her way in this Chp to describe things that would be irrelevant...UNLESS biology is at play.
          	1) There is a big age gap betw the Saldago kids (who are all 2 yrs apart) and Mireya -- 6 years.
          	2) When Dario first sees her -- he describes everyone as tall and slender and curly haired -- expect Mireya -- who is much shorter and curvier.
          	3) THIS CHP then has Dario say Mireya is similar to her mother -- but he then describes them as quite different. Isabella -tall w/ very curly hair compared to the soft waves Dario describes Mireya as having. He only says that the warm brown eyes are the most "similar" -- but -- that's it? 
          	4) THEN - I noticed that the author took time to describe Analise - interestingly with soft waves (like Mireya's). The author then describes Andres putting Mireya 1st from the time he accepted her as an infant. WHY describe these things...unless they're relevant to a story of biology and adoption?
          	5) To that end - now look how the author described Mireya's uncle - as "always doting" on Mireya -- refusing to leave at the gate - "bullish" - looking at Dario like a "problem." He is acting like a ....father.
          	6) Viviana -- She is described without emotion -- but controls Uncle Joaquin by saying "my love" to move him away.
          	THEORY: Mireya is Joquin's with a Mistress - and was raised by Andres/Isabella. Viviana is the woman in charge - resenting that Mireya got all the benefits - even Dario? - instead of Isabella. I don't think Joaquin knew.
          	PROBLEMS w/ My THEORY: This Chp describes 3x that Viviana is Isabella's sister -- but then, at the gate, says the Uncle is Andres' "brother." Unless 2 sisters married 2 bothers - I think it's a typo -and they're BIL, only.

OliviaCarson8

@slcwatt55 Analisa is 28.
          	  Reina and Mireya were soul sister and closer than anyone else.
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OliviaCarson8

@slcwatt55 Yes brothers married sisters.
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slcwatt55

@slcwatt55 @OlviaCarson8 @KarMa301 - IWMBM - Isabella's the Mom
          	  
          	  So - I saw the Q/A after the fact -- thanks Olivia for asking Q's. I see Isabella is the biological mom of Mireya -- so I'm wrong on that. But, I'm convinced she's a 1/2 sister because there's been too much reference to how she looks nothing like her siblings. -- Anyway, she confirmed her parents/aunt/uncle are 2 brothers marrying 2 sisters! Who is the woman (Victoria, maybe?) whose finger was cut off -- and how do people know about her? Was she referenced in the book?
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slcwatt55

@KarMa301 @OliviaCarson8 - If We Must Be Monsters - Theory
          
          Karma and Olivia - I didn't want to post this to IWMBM just in case I'm right?! I HAVE A THEORY -- but I need your input.
          MY THEORY: Mireya is NOT the biological daughter of Isabella and Andres. There are many clues -- and the author went out of her way in this Chp to describe things that would be irrelevant...UNLESS biology is at play.
          1) There is a big age gap betw the Saldago kids (who are all 2 yrs apart) and Mireya -- 6 years.
          2) When Dario first sees her -- he describes everyone as tall and slender and curly haired -- expect Mireya -- who is much shorter and curvier.
          3) THIS CHP then has Dario say Mireya is similar to her mother -- but he then describes them as quite different. Isabella -tall w/ very curly hair compared to the soft waves Dario describes Mireya as having. He only says that the warm brown eyes are the most "similar" -- but -- that's it? 
          4) THEN - I noticed that the author took time to describe Analise - interestingly with soft waves (like Mireya's). The author then describes Andres putting Mireya 1st from the time he accepted her as an infant. WHY describe these things...unless they're relevant to a story of biology and adoption?
          5) To that end - now look how the author described Mireya's uncle - as "always doting" on Mireya -- refusing to leave at the gate - "bullish" - looking at Dario like a "problem." He is acting like a ....father.
          6) Viviana -- She is described without emotion -- but controls Uncle Joaquin by saying "my love" to move him away.
          THEORY: Mireya is Joquin's with a Mistress - and was raised by Andres/Isabella. Viviana is the woman in charge - resenting that Mireya got all the benefits - even Dario? - instead of Isabella. I don't think Joaquin knew.
          PROBLEMS w/ My THEORY: This Chp describes 3x that Viviana is Isabella's sister -- but then, at the gate, says the Uncle is Andres' "brother." Unless 2 sisters married 2 bothers - I think it's a typo -and they're BIL, only.

OliviaCarson8

@slcwatt55 Analisa is 28.
            Reina and Mireya were soul sister and closer than anyone else.
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OliviaCarson8

@slcwatt55 Yes brothers married sisters.
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slcwatt55

@slcwatt55 @OlviaCarson8 @KarMa301 - IWMBM - Isabella's the Mom
            
            So - I saw the Q/A after the fact -- thanks Olivia for asking Q's. I see Isabella is the biological mom of Mireya -- so I'm wrong on that. But, I'm convinced she's a 1/2 sister because there's been too much reference to how she looks nothing like her siblings. -- Anyway, she confirmed her parents/aunt/uncle are 2 brothers marrying 2 sisters! Who is the woman (Victoria, maybe?) whose finger was cut off -- and how do people know about her? Was she referenced in the book?
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Wendy-578

Hi, I literally don’t know how to send a message to you without the vultures descending on us. I swear there is group that goes into to a story that they know is going to have cheating in it with original H and h and they become so spiteful they try to change the narrative of the story.. ugh I would love to continue to connect with you on this story and others but the others on there make it not fun. I’m good for a respectful debate but they are just awful. It makes me feel like crap the rest of the day and I end up not enjoying the story.

slcwatt55

@Wendy-578 @Tsaysshesays -- Hi Wendy. I think it's ridiculous that you were bullied on S&R simply for wondering if Alaric was on the spectrum. (T and I both had, as well.) For one - it is directly relevant to understanding his character. For another - it provides a ton of context for his comments/behavior (the "I don't love you" as, too, his locking her in the bedroom). It appeared to me the bullies don't want ANY issue raised that downplays their theory that Alaric is the MOST ABUSIVE husband in the world. But, to your point, he's in the Mafia - he runs a Crime Family -- he has torture chambers in his basement -- and they think it's the "worst of the worst" that he locked her in the bedroom 1 night (while he sat in there w/ her and watched her sleep)? REALLY? Give me a break. I thought your perspective was really interesting, and shed even more light on how he is interpreting emotional data - and I entirely believe the author will acknowledge before book-end that he is on the spectrum. So -- this bully brigade that only wants Alaric condemned as an abuser - they're re-writing the story THEIR way. (But, it's not supported by the book.)
                        And - maybe it's an unpopular opinion - but in my mind - kidnapping Niko from Alaric for 8 mos (which concealing his location serves to meet that standard) is WAY worse than being locked in my bedroom for a night or two - and it is WAY worse than Alaric's infidelity. It's wrong - and an interesting layer to Selene's character. The author doesn't pretend it's a-ok, either -- as she writes that Selene feels conflicted and guilty. So, it makes her character morally grey, too. But, how readers are ignoring how wrong it is? Blows my mind. 
                        T and Nancy and I are reading In the After (ITA), too, btw. Nan and I are having trouble warming up a bit - because we haven't yet seen enough remorse from David - and we hate that the author forgives Ava. But, T may feel differently. Anyway, it'll be fun to hear your input, too.
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Wendy-578

@slcwatt55 hi! I also deleted my comment about Alaric being on spectrum or neurodivergent or at the very least mental difficulties emotionally. My point was completely overshadowed by telling me I was making dangerous comments. If someone has child that is withdrawn and has cold dead eyes I would hope that parents would pay attention and seek further understanding of what may be going on. Let’s also talk about this being a fictional story him locking her in room is not the worst in the mafia books I’ve read and from his stand point he was protecting Selene because he knew more than she did and knew she was in danger. Her kidnapping her son is also just as bad (they are both wrong ) how people can’t understand that blows my mind. 
            The Silent Hour author wrote a letter to readers in the beginning saying this is cheating story with original H and h and the cheating was in my opinion minor no feelings one night two time same night and he treated ow like garbage. She then did a complete character assassination on H because the bullies came out the wood work. 
            I am reading In The After. I completely forgot the name of the book. lol I am actually enjoying this one I think he is going to be put through his passes. I’m not one that likes when the grovel makes men look weak but I do love when the h puts him through his paces. I’m interested to see where it goes.
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Wendy-578

@Tsaysshesays thank you so much! This means so much to me. We cannot agree but still be respectful and kind to each other the last several stories I’ve read have made me feel defeated. I may not agree with someone but would never attack like some of these comments are.
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Rlaurenson

Hey lady! Can you ask @tsaysshesays to follow me? Lol! I’m no longer allowed to participate on the message board cause it says I’ve exceeded the number of unsolicited messages and I can only talk to people that follow me basically lol!

slcwatt55

@OopsAllErrors WTF is happening?
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slcwatt55

@Rlaurenson Tsaysshesays is following you now
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slcwatt55

@Rlaurenson I just sent her a note to follow you. (lol - you sound like a stalker!)
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Rlaurenson

Girl now that the author is taking attacks against Emily as personal attacks against her, people are gonna start censoring themselves in the comments section. Same with character attacks against David. Cause he’s the Hero. I’m kinda disappointed that we are not allowed to criticize fictional characters especially when they were specifically written with the intent of making them be worthy of criticism. Of course we are going to be outraged that David is a hero when the author has made him extremely villainous- not just by detailing to death his sexcapeds with Ava, but also how cruel, neglectful and manipulative he is with his wife. And then Emily knew many chapters back that he was cheating and has taken zero action. I genuinely thought the author wanted us to rage read only to now see she’s taking any criticism of Emily as a criticism against her. Especially when asked if these things happened to her she said it was very loosely based. Even in our Facebook chat group were people were so open and honest with their opinions, the author jumped in the chat and you can see a sudden shift of people literally afraid to give their honest opinions. Suddenly it’s like “Emily is so strong! We believe in her! David can be redeemed!” I had to leave the chat cause it became just not authentic anymore. I think only you, me and T and Nancy are the ones in there sticking to our beliefs.

mdelicate

this is so random and maybe you don’t even remember me but i was just thinking and talking with someone about the good old days having discussions over glass house’s theories with you and I had to tell you how fun they were, lowkey miss it