@zoya789968 yeah I get that as those ships not only got made canon but was given lots of screentime in the series it would influence people, myself at first thought Klamille was the new Stelena and I kinda liked Marbekah's tension/chemistry until we learned Marcel was basically her nephew that's when I started disliking the ship + how Marcel loved power more than Rebekah but in no universe Haylijah would be acceptable with Hope in the picture and their canon dynamic (I won't discuss what for me would have made their dynamic better, I made the mistake once and ended up creating an argument between us by accident) but yeah there's definitely no World where a guy lusting after his brother's baby mama because she's carrying a miracle is acceptable yet this fandom(as in the whole TVDU fandom not Klayley community) find it more distrusting to ship 2 parents together than a mom + baby's uncle or dad + therapist