@JonathanBlaylock
@The ghastghast
@mention a userEight: Hello everyone. Now I know I'm suppose to be elsewhere but some undertale nerds wanted to clarify that Frisk and Chara's souls cannot be determination. While it's true all humans have it Chara and Frisk's souls are special.
Yusei: Take a boss monster and a normal monster's soul. Same material but there's more, special features, to a boss monster's soul.
Eight: So all humans have determination. Though what Chara and Frisk have is also why they have so much universal control. They both have what is called a royal soul or a true determination soul. Now normally only one person can have this kinda soul in a lifetime but since Chara had one before and was reborn she and Frisk share that power. In this universe at least. Another one is that Frisk did not survive the fall and Chara gave their soul to save Frisk and have them save monsters. Only for Frisk to experiment with their powers countless times until they got bored and did a final pacifist run. Anywho Chara and Frisk's souls are basically above all human souls. So even though all humans have determination their souls are very special.
Now next nerd subject is Chara's plan to break the barrier.
Yusei: Now everyone will tell you either Chara killed themself to kill or save all monsters. But remember there are infinite universes. In some the plan succeeds and goes different ways. In other's Chara doesn't even kill herself. In a few she just stays with her family until the barrier is later broken or a monster kills her. Mainly sans or asgore. Surprisingly Chara is in many universes is either Undyne's protégée or in some way close to her. This causes in some universes for Undyne to die protecting Chara, killing her murderer out of revenge, or being the one to end up living in the ruins with Chara.
Eight: those universes were nice
Yusei: Agreed. Now as I was saying, ythe buttercups were not always Chara's option to die or help the monsters. In some of the one's where her plan to die succeeds a different death is involved. One is Asriel kills Chara himself to gain LV so that he can pull it off. Another is she gives it to Asgore who either kills, enslaves or lives peacefully with the humans. Some non leathal ones are that Chara leaves and brings back six humans to break the barrier. Note that the conditions were that you needed seven human souls. No one said that they had to be alive. And since monsters naturally have killer instinct at birth except Asriel killing a few humans was no problem and seemed easier to the monsters since humans trapped them there and might not seem so willing to let them out again.
Sans: Aren't you guys suppose to be gone?
Eight: It's just me and Yusei the other's are elsewhere currently. We won't cause trouble.
Sans: Hey I'm not complaining. Nice to sea you again ate. Always ashore to have a good tyme when your a-round this world.
Eight:*chuckles*
Sans:*glares at Yusei* I will end you so fucking badly.
Yusei: I will fuck your brothet and brag to you about all the details.
Both:*prepare weapons*
Eight: Yusei, the ask?
Yusei: I'll deal with you later.
Eight: Now whete were we?
Yusei: breaking the barrier
Eight: Thank you. Now Chara and Asriel are not the only ones to break the barrier. Sometimes it's a fallen child(who comes at random some universes) or Alphys's inventions. Any questions please ask because there's always more to tell but its easier to just answer individual questions than explain the whole thing.