This part is going to be an excerpt from my favorite interview of all time. All I can say is.... Hold on to your hats
I now present to you, Robert Pattison's GQ interview
*I HIGHLY recommend that you take the time to read this*
"A few days later, Pattinson decides to cook for me. Or cook in front of me, anyway. FaceTiming, we agreed, was hard, exhausting. We were a little sick of looking at each other. But what can two men do together when they're on different continents, in different time zones? Pattinson thought: cooking. He had notions of Top Chef, of us photographing our respective refrigerators and then battling it out. (Neither of us has really seen Top Chef.) But then he looked in his refrigerator, and "the ingredients that were here are just so totally independent of each other. There's no way to put them together." So he went to the corner store, and now here he is, with a plan.
I wish I could tell you whether what I'm about to describe here is a bit, or a piece of performance art, or is in fact sincere—even now, I don't totally know. I think parts of it are real and parts of it can't be real. "He's not mean," Claire Denis says about Pattinson. "But he's always trying to escape a little. He doesn't want you to put your claws too deep in him. Sometimes I forget, and I'll send him a text with something a little personal. And he will always answer: hahahaha. 'This is the limit, Claire.' You know?"
I know.
Anyway, the story Pattinson tells to preface what he is about to do is roughly this:
Last year, he says, he had a business idea. What if, he said to himself, "pasta really had the same kind of fast-food credentials as burgers and pizzas? I was trying to figure out how to capitalize in this area of the market, and I was trying to think: How do you make a pasta which you can hold in your hand?"
He says he went so far as to design a prototype that involved the use of a panini press, and then, he says, he went even further, setting up a meeting with Los Angeles restaurant royalty Lele Massimini, the cofounder of Sugarfish and the Santa Monica pasta restaurant Uovo. "And I told him my business plan," Pattinson recalls, "and his facial expression didn't even change afterwards. Let alone acknowledge what my plan was. There was absolutely no sign of anything from him, literally. And so it kind of put me off a little bit." (Massimini says: "It's 100 percent true, everything he told you.")
Nevertheless, Pattinson says, he conceived of a brand name for his product, a soft little moniker that kind of summed up what he thought his pasta creation looked like: Piccolini Cuscino. Little Pillow. He thought he'd give the product another go, with me now: "Maybe if I say it in GQ, maybe, like, a partner will just come along."
So he now takes hold of the bag that he's brought from the corner store, out of which he produces the following:
One (1) giant, filthy, dust-covered box of cornflakes. ("I went to the shop, and they didn't sell breadcrumbs. I'm like, 'Oh, fuck it! I'm just getting cornflakes. That's basically the same shit.' ")
One (1) incredibly large novelty lighter. ("I always liked the idea of doing a little flambé, like the brand name, with kind of burnt ends at the top.")
Nine (9) packs of presliced cheese. ("I got, like, nine packs of presliced cheese.")
Sauce. (Like a tomato sauce? "Just any sauce.")
He puts on latex gloves. He pulls out some sugar and some aluminum foil and makes a bed, a kind of hollowed-out sphere, with the foil. He holds up a box of penne pasta that he had in the house. "All right," Pattinson says. "So obviously, first things first, you gotta microwave the pasta."
I watch as he pours dry penne into a cereal bowl, covers it with water, and places it in the microwave for eight minutes. He says using penne is already new territory for him. Usually he uses...well... "Do you know the pasta that's, like, a little, it's like a blob, a sort of squiggly blob?"
"Gnocchi?"
"No, no, no, no, it looks like—what would you even call it? It looks like a sort of messy...like, the hair bun on a girl."
"I have literally no idea what you're talking about," I say.
"There was one type of pasta that worked. It definitely wasn't penne."
Nevertheless, penne and water in the microwave for eight minutes. In the meantime, he takes the foil and he begins dumping sugar on top of it. "I found after a lot of experimentation that you really need to congeal everything in an enormous amount of sugar and cheese." So after the sugar, he opens his first package of cheese and begins layering slice after slice onto the sugar-foil. Then more sugar: "It really needs a sugar crust."
Then he realizes that he's forgotten the outer layer, which is supposed to be breadcrumbs but today will be crushed-up cornflakes, and so he lifts the pile of cheese and sugar and crumbles some cornflakes onto the aluminum foil before placing the sugar-cheese back on top of it. Then he adds sauce, which is red. The microwave dings, and Pattinson promptly burns himself on the bowl of pasta. He sighs, heavily, looking at it. "No idea if it's cooked or not." He dumps the pasta in anyway. At this point, his spirits have visibly begun to flag. "I mean, there's absolutely no chance this is gonna work. Absolutely none."
The little pillow now mostly built, he pours more sugar on top of it and then produces the top half of a bun, which he hollows out, places it on top of the rest of whatever the hell this thing is, and...begins burning the top of the bun with the giant novelty lighter. "I'm just gonna do the initials...."
"You look like you're cooking meth," I say, because he does.
"I'm really trying to sell this company. I'm doing this for my brand."
At this point, he accidentally ignites one of his latex gloves, which promptly melts onto his palm. He yells in pain. Then he gingerly holds up the finished product: some approximation of a P, followed by a C, for Piccolini Cuscino, burned into the top of a hamburger bun.
He starts wrapping the whole thing up with more aluminum foil, and then compacts it, and then wraps it some more, and then squeezes it again. Suddenly he stops: "Can you actually put foil in an oven?"
I say yes, you can, but what you absolutely cannot do is put foil in a microwave. And he says cool, cool, and then he goes looking for his oven, which he's never used before, and this is a nice house, so there are multiple options, and the one he settles on, well: It looks like another microwave to me. He assures me it is not.
"I reckon probably...10 minutes?"
He puts the aluminum sphere, the little pillow, into what he thinks is an oven and I think is a microwave. He attempts to turn it on. "I actually knew how to do this before," he tells me. "I literally did this yesterday. And now it's just impossible. It's going to look like I can't cook at all."
He fumbles at some more buttons. "Oh, oh, oh," he says, excitedly now. "A thousand watts, there you go."
Proudly he is walking back toward the counter that his phone is on when, behind him, a lightning bolt erupts from the oven/microwave, and Pattinson ducks like someone outside has opened fire. He's giggling and crouching as the oven throws off stray flickers of light and sound.
"The fucking electricity...oh, my God," he says, still on the floor. And then, with a loud, final bang, the oven/microwave goes dark.
In the silence, Pattinson and I both stare at the mysterious piece of machinery built into the wall behind him.
"Yeah, I think I have to leave that alone," he says, sighing again, picking himself off the floor. "But that is a Piccolini Cuscino."
