josselyn777

I don't want unnecessary bashing from toxic Klaroliners and Klamillines please stay away 

Izzyswan02

@josselyn777 I see well good of you to give your terms from the start.
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josselyn777

@Izzyswan02 
          	  Yes it's a preventive post 
          	  They destroyed my Klaus and Cleo story it was one of my favorite and most read story then they just didn't stopped 
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Izzyswan02

Hey Josselyn I know you're in reading mode now but by scrolling through my board looking at my old convo, I stumbled onto one of our convo when you said our discussion about Klaylope not being portrayed enough like Royalty in the show as the writters had hinted gave you an idea to make your own Royalty Klaylope story, I don't know what you had in mind specifically but I thought I should tell you maybe you'd remember.
          If you want I can do a screenshot of our convo and send it to you via mail or I send it on Tory's phone and she trandfer it to you ?

Izzyswan02

@josselyn777 yeah I know Haylijah stans use the narative that Elijah was good to her so they're made for each other but what I'm saying is that while yes Haylijah's relationship is stupid, disgusting and disrespectfull towards both Klaus,Hope and later Jackson's memory it is not Hayley lacking self respect (except after her death when she imediately forgave Elijah and told Hope to do the same) as she still stand up against Elijah when he wanted her to tone down her wolf traits/side, if anything in the most part of their relationship it's Elijah who had no self respect going after his brother's baby mama then using Hayley's emotial vulnerability after Jackson's death to get her in his bed
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josselyn777

@Izzyswan02 
            Haylijah fans always uses this narrative that he didn't abused her so they were made for each other and the narrative they push against Klayley that Klaus choked her and they had alot of fights and arguments they miss the point they both were wolves, supernatural creature and same in nature but Klaus didn't abused her like Caroline and Camille 
            I agree with what you said about Hayley's self respect part 
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Izzyswan02

@josselyn777 well for Hayley while making her get with her child uncle is weird and disgusting I wouldn't call it a lack of self respect as Elijah never abused her they're just not compatible and that goes against the familly dynamic same with how she got back with Elijah just after Jackson's death that's more about disrespecting her kid, Klaus and Jackson's memories than disrespecting herself even if I get what you mean, on the other hand ghost/spirit Hayley pushing Hope to forgive Elijah after he was responsible for her death + the whole I'm waiting for my death this here was lack of self respect from Hayley.
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Izzyswan02

Hey Josselyn what would you say to write a Klayley story set both in season 2 and 3 of To where Klaus didn't kill Ansel to protect Hope but instead lets Ansel prove his side ?

Izzyswan02

@josselyn777 don't worry and yeah I just saw the follow notification from her account.
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josselyn777

@Izzyswan02 
            Ohh sorry didn't replied these 
            I think Zoya is back too
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Izzyswan02

@josselyn777 true she's now one of the most read Klayley author
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josselyn777

@praneeha 
          Camille, on the other hand, felt more like a replacement for Caroline. The writers just tried to present her as the opposite a therapist who ‘understands’ Klaus. But does that really make sense? A therapist’s job is to listen and understand that’s literally what they’re trained to do. People often use the excuse that Klaus was a deeply traumatized soul, so someone like Camille understanding him was something extraordinary. But in reality, that’s just her role as a therapist, not some profound soulmate-level connection.

josselyn777

@praneeha 
          
          Indeed 
          I genuinely feels like the writers forced the idea of Cami being Klaus’s true love and soulmate. I mean, just think about it how does a ‘soulmate’ connection even grow out of a therapist simply doing her job and listening to you? That’s not love, that’s a professional dynamic. And the fact that she herself admits she can’t stay his therapist while going through her own transition just makes it even more questionable. So what is it really love, or just emotional dependency and obligation?
          
          “As for Caroline, Klaus and Caroline definitely had potential if their dynamic wasn’t so toxic—but she still wasn’t the right fit for him. Caroline was far too young to truly understand someone as complex as Klaus, and after everything he put her through, it honestly makes no sense for her to form a genuine connection with him. On top of that, their dynamic was never balanced and probably never could be.
          And Camille? She felt more like a replacement for Caroline. The writers just flipped the narrative made her a therapist who ‘understands’ Klaus but at the core, it still feels like the same idea repackaged.
          
          As for Caroline Klaus and Caroline definitely had potential if their dynamic wasn’t so toxic, but even then, she was never really his cup of tea. She was far too young to truly understand someone as complex as Klaus. And after everything he put her through, it just doesn’t make sense for her to form a deep connection with him. On top of that, their dynamic was never balanced to begin with.