rebekah_vaught

Question: Do you think Farya is still in the Harem? It's pretty obvious Murad ended things with her (officially). But, I wonder if she's confined to her room like Ayse? As paranoid as Murad is, I don't think he'd want her anywhere near Elif. She's just as reckless as his Haseki, and tbf, at this point, she probably feels like she's got nothing left to lose (Not true, but she's in her crazy ex era).

rebekah_vaught

@rosaltisa16 My guess is Farya didn't pay much attention to her Ottoman lessons, and...She thought she was 'special' because she was a Hungarian princess. *Sigh* Yes, a princess whose throne was under the Ottoman Dynasty's control. After getting rid of her uncle, Murad literally took away Farya's birthright and gave it to one of his courtiers, a MAN. For a second, she snapped out of it, but then, Atike told her he did it out of "love (yuck)," so he could marry her, since Ottoman Sultans couldn't marry heiresses to other dynasties. *Sigh* Gurl, your ancestor, Suleiman the Magnificent, broke a THREE HUNDRED YEAR OLD LAW, to free and marry, Haseki Hurrem Sultan, a Ukrainan SLAVE. Are u telling me your brother couldn't legally marry a Crown Princess, and consolidate her country into his empire? But, then, again, Atike is a dumb teenager who thought Silathar (Who is nearing 30), was madly in love with her...:/
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rosaltisa16

@ rebekah_vaught  but unlike the other two women, Farya had an education she knows the rules, remember shah sultan she knows her family history and their enemies and even the europeans families ,if I was in her place I would pick up my things and leave like girl how can you accept being disrespectful like that 
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rebekah_vaught

The fault is solely on Murad using Farya's naviety against her. He knew what he was doing. Even if her princess couldn't see it, Madam/Melek should have demanded a formal nikah (Islamic marriage contract rather than just wedding ceremony). That's why Murad couldn't have been with Elif until the paperwork was signed. He was making sure their marriage was entirely legal on all points. Furthermore, Islam allowed polygamy, especially to sultans. If Murad had wanted to marry Elif, Farya, and Ayse he could have.
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rebekah_vaught

One thing I liked about about Big Sis Ayse Sultan is that she confirmed that Haseki Ayse and Princess Farya really aren't angry at Elif. The root of their true misery is Murad. But, because he's the Man and the Sultan, they can't directly lash out at him. That only leaves them Elif. It doesn't matter that she did nothing to encourage him. She certainly didn't "bewitch" him like Haseki Ayse claimed. Both pick-mes see Elif as the easy target and they won't mess with their precious Murad. *eye roll*

rosaltisa16

@ rebekah_vaught  I really hope that Elif changes the things around there especially with the children and Ibrahim, they need someone to look out for them since everyone is plotting and stabbing each other 
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rebekah_vaught

@rosaltisa16 In the case of Show Hurrem and Show Kosem, I honestly think one of their problems was having too many kids. They both wanted big families, but realistically, it's hard to give each individual child the right amount of attention. Plus, when you're trying to keep your kids from being killed/killing others, you probably aren't going to take the time ask them about their true feelings. Royal children were pretty much expected to act like miniature adults. In "Destiny," Murad assumed his children being able to ignore/sleep through public executions would make them strong. Elif was like "That's not right."
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rosaltisa16

Unfortunately you're right, but I think focusing on the children's emotional needs is essential, it will give you a stable individual capable of taking responsible decisions , take bayazid and Selim hurrem was so focused on either keeping mehemet safe and keep power dominant in the harem that she forgot about her sons problems, bayazid angry issues and jealousy and Selim alcoholism, resentment, then we have Halima sultan Who was kept so long away from her son to the point when they get reunited the poor guy become crazy , they should focus on therapy and ask their children how they are it's seem Elif will be the first one to do that 
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rebekah_vaught

I noticed when Murad was acting like a jealous freak (Lol) and interrogationing the male kitchen staff, he thought that Esma (Elif's handmaid) wouldn't have stopped her from breaking royal protocol because she "adored" her too much. He has barely interacted with the poor woman (Thank God(s), for her sake), but he automatically assumes Elif is so beloved by everyone around her. Lol In Murad's crazy mind, it's impossible for anyone not to adore Elif, and let her do whatever she wants. LMAO He's basically outing his own feelings and doesn't even realize it! LMAO

rebekah_vaught

@rosaltisa16 He's a sadist and a masochist. *smirk*
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rosaltisa16

@ rebekah_vaught  he loves that, I mean no one ever dared to speak to him like that, let alone call him out for his actions so being called like that by his very beautiful wife,makes him feel things
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rebekah_vaught

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@rosaltisa16 Elif has said "I hate you" to Murad numerous times (He counted); She called him a "jealous bastard"; She told him to "Shut up" many times; She shushed him when he was wanted to kill Ayse; OH, she also called "Strange" and a "Psychopath." And "Tyrant"...Lol
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