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@slcwatt55 @Nancy_818 @Wendy,-578   
          	My thoughts on the latest chapter.
          	
          	While I WANT David to be an alpha who does whatever it takes to win Emily’s heart back, I did not sign up for him becoming an asshole under Gideon’s direction.
          	
          	I don’t fully understand U.S. divorce law, but my understanding was that Illinois is a no-fault state—and the affair doesn’t affect the divorce ruling itself, though it DOES factor into dissipation of assets. And since David is both the cheater and the higher earner, wouldn’t he be responsible for Claire’s legal fees as well? Alimony should flow FROM him, not to him. So can someone please explain how he can even petition for spousal support? Because Google said otherwise.
          	
          	I get that he’s “fighting for Emily” (too little, too late, asshole), and I don’t even mind him playing dirty when it comes to custody—ironic, considering he’s only seen the boys twice in the month they’ve been separated. I also don’t mind him pushing for therapy or counseling (even though, from what I can tell, Illinois doesn’t mandate either).
          	What I CANNOT stomach is him going after her royalties and assets.
          	
          	Even knowing his POV—that he wants NONE of it and is only COMPLYING as a DELAY TACTIC—it still doesn’t sit right with me.
          	
          	Why isn’t David sitting outside Emily’s house in his car? Why isn’t he calling her, texting her a million times? That’s what a man in love—one who refuses to lose his wife—would do(That man also wouldn’t cheat in the first place.) If these moments ARE happening, why aren’t we being shown them? They’re crucial. They’d go a long way in showing that David’s actions match his supposed intentions.
          	
          	

Wendy-578

@slcwatt55 @nancy_818 @tsaysshesay 
          	  
          	  Hi, I’m sorry if I was not more clear. I am not going to stop commenting with you on this story. I am going to let ITA develop more. Maybe wait and see Emily’s POV. I see the frustration the slowness of the story. I usually read/listen to a book every day or every other day. While I am enjoying its direction. I FEEL like what I am saying the same things over and over. I agree with the anniversary being completely dismissed. I went to the author’s facebook page and asked about that Nancy. We will see if she responds. I know she said she’s busy. She has responded to me on there before. My only thought would be maybe there is reason we will find out later in another confrontation between David and Emily. 
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Nancy_818

@slcwatt55 @Wendy-578 @Tsaysshesays Book Discussions
          	  
          	  Well put, S, I welcome different views because it brings up meanings I may have missed or concepts I hadn’t thought of! I value the variety of angles. Wendy, I’m not sure we’re as far apart on ITA as it may appear… we all want the same outcome (I think… David & Emily happily together) and we’re just venting various frustrations at the journey. But I think our end goal for the story is all the same. 
          	  
          	  Especially after the huge burn on TSH, and the hidden plans for Fractured, I appreciate the ITA author sticking with her vision. But no one improves at a higher level without constructive feedback. So I also think our comments, if read, would have real value during the editing process which usually takes place between WP and publication on Kindle/Patreon. Adding a comment where David says “Happy Anniversary, I’m looking forward to us having dinner” or whatever on the alleged date of their anniversary doesn’t change the overall creative vision of her work, but it would absolutely add meaning and connection that is missing right now. No writer wants to see the “red ink” of edits, but smart writers at least consider the value of suggested alterations. As S said, I too enjoy chatting with you all and very much appreciate all the various ideas brought up! 
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@wendy-578 @Nancy_818 @Tsaysshesays
          	  
          	  Hi Wendy. Don’t feel frustrated if you don’t agree with some of us on how David has been written - we don’t agree on lots of things in this book club. This is just a safe page where opinions can be discussed freely — and none of us agree on everything — which would make it boring, anyway. I hope you continue to share your opinions — they’re relevant and interesting! And, it’s nice to have your input. 
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Nancy_818

@Tsaysshesays @slcwatt55  Stories…
          
          Hey, just wanted to mention a few other stories… I’m still really enjoying Enzio & Moxie. His thoughts are fun. 
          
          GroveltoHEA just finished Major & Lindy. It was one of her MC books. Loved it, cried a few times towards the end. She’s such a talented storyteller.
          
          Probably top of the rec list is Jona’s The Healing Love Club… that has some twists and dilemmas that I’m not sure how you’d solve them. I wish Jona could write and release everything faster! :)
          
          Speaking of Jona, did either of you consider DMing her for the endgame H in ATF? Supposedly she knows now? If you find out, I’d be curious who it is. 
          
          Jona has about five other stories that interest me, but I haven’t started them. I like watching the chapters add up before I start, because all these open-ended stories stress me out! 
          
          To get my fix of stories with endings (and keep up my Kindle streak), I’ve been rereading a bunch of classic Harlequin Presents by Jacqueline Baird. Wow, chauvinism and horrible H’s sure thrived in those old books! Her heroines seemed to have BBS (body betrayal syndrome) a lot and it does make me want to yell at them… but luckily the books are over in 2 hours so I can just shake it off. :)
          
          What are you reading these days? Hope you’re both doing well! I’m glad it’s February, January had too much “bad” in it, I’m ready for better days. 

Nancy_818

@Tsaysshesays @slcwatt55 ATF Lily Chapter
          
          I probably need a life because seeing an ATF subject line in my email inbox makes me a little too happy! :) :)
          
          So… do we think the text at the end was really from Reed? And was he there watching or did he have online access somehow? 
          
          It was a good chapter but I want MORE! 
          
          Chapter thoughts? 

slcwatt55

@Nancy_818 @Tsaysshesays ATF - The Texter
            
            Ohhhhh….I entirely missed (or forgot) that the text was coming from Rima. Thanks for that, Nan. I could’ve sworn they (Rina/Lily) were on the phone. My brain swapped it up — may have not helped I was half asleep when I read, it seems. So…hmmmm. Reed would make sense. I just don’t think that is how he’d speak to Lily. Maybe it’s just me? 
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Nancy_818

@slcwatt55 @Tsaysshesays ATF Text
            
            Lily is in the car with Daniel… here’s the last two lines…
            
            My phone buzzes inside my bag, and I fish it out. A text from Rima lights up the screen.
            
            It's perfect, Lily. You nailed it. And I must say that you look absolutely beautiful.
            
            
            So, Rima could have said she looked beautiful but I got the feeling someone else was saying that to Lily…
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slcwatt55

@Nancy_818 @tsayshsesays ATF - Texts
            
            Lily is on her phone — speaking to Rima — when the text comes in, I thought. So, the text is to Lily. You’re saying the text is to Rima? . (Or, on Rima’s phone?) 
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@Tsaysshesays @Nancy_818 ITA - T's Comments on Missed Opportunities
          
          OMG - THIS couldn't have summed up the failures of ITA better. I loved the Reader's comment you passed on about whether D would even show up for E's sonogram if he hadn't been caught (and Ava hadn't become too pushy). ANOTHER FUNNY COMMENT in the book was a Reader wondering why Emily finds any kind of luxury so foreign when David drives a Maybach. lol. (She reminds me of Oliver -- except she doesn't have the guts to ask for the 2nd bowl of porridge.)

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@slcwatt55 @Nancy_818
          
          Oh, and there were SO MANY MISSED OPPORTUNITIES for Emily to snap back. 1)When David says, “I always thought we’d go together to London,” she should have asked if he meant him and Ava. Or said, “Just like we were supposed to go on that honeymoon?”
          2)When he tells her she’ll be comfortable since it’s first class, she should have retorted, “You’d know—you have plenty of experience with first-class travel and first-class hoes.”
          3)When David asked, “Will he (Langford) be there?” She should have replied, “I don’t know—by the way, is Ava still at the firm?”
          
          Maybe I’m the juvenile one now, but Emily just lies low and takes it. She fucking can’t even retort back.
          
          Here’s a joke: a reader asked if David hadn’t been caught and Ava hadn’t shown her rabid side, and the affair was still ongoing—would David have chosen Emily’s prenatal checkups, or would he have forgotten the appointments and fcked Ava while his phone was on silent?
          
          L said that David would NEVER put Ava above Emily.
          Well, hello—seven months? New York? Godfrey? The spa? Being late to his OWN birthday party? Lying about attending a birthday party? Double-dipping?Broken Condom? La Vigne? Sexing Ava after she humiliated Emily in front of his associates? Promoting Ava?
          
          
          

Tsaysshesays

@slcwatt55 @Nancy_818 London Calling
          
          It keeps getting WORSE. Juvenile is right. I just don’t understand Randa—a woman in her late 40s/ early 50s, successful and a badass, as mentioned AGES ago—going man-crazy like a 21-year-old bimbo out for a sugar daddy. I didn't like her, she was embarassing.
               David is… well, David. Aside from the watch comment, there’s him noticing Julian’s Brioni and Tom Ford suits that HE would have worn for events. As if Julian's is doable b/c of his suits. God, this man is an insufferable, materialistic, elitist fool. And Emily is still placating him, and asking him to sign  "permission to travel" slips.
                I dislike Julian even before he has actual screen time, b/c what man w/ morals lusts after and PURSUES a pregnant woman? And it’s extremely weird that Julian was discussing Emily’s pregnancy with Randa. God, they are barely acquaintances, and he’s already acting too stalkerish—too Ava-like. Or maybe it just seems that way to me. I had extremely high hopes for his character, but I won’t hold my breath. If we’re already five months into the two-year timeline, then I don’t think Julian is waiting another seven months—until baby Grace is a couple of months old—to sex up Emily. This is turning my stomach. I always say morality, for the most part, is subjective, but this isn’t it. 
                So we’re going to have Emily and Julian dating while she’s pregnant—and then what? Julian tells Emily he signed up for pregnancy smex, not to be a stepdad to baby Grace. They break up, and David swoops in? 
            And the way Randa spoke about Julian didn’t sell him to me either. As a reader said, Randa was pimping Emily out to Julian. This author really let her morals be known throughout Book 1 and now 2—she’s okay with fidelity (Gauthier), OWs are just misguided people in love (Ava), pregnant women are my jam (Julian), and it’s okay to pimp your pregnant friend to the highest bidder (Randa).
               

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@slcwatt55 @Nancy_818 Julian and Abandoned Plot lines.
          
          The latest FB post hints at London and Cavill-like shoulders, so I’m guessing Julian is entering the chat. Great. No resolution to the current issues but we are now jumping to the next phase to accommodate Julian.
               The Ava “crazy” plot was abandoned. We don’t know what happened to the requiem Emily wrote. David faced no professional repercussions—even though with Ava’s demotion and the affair, Maggie would know everything.Yet... Nothing came of it. It looks like the divorce will be settled behind the scenes—no credit-card verification. Zero accountability. I also don't have much hope for the theraphy sessions. 
               The author said(in response to my question earlier in 7D) there would be no trickle truth and that David would have to account for EVERYTHING. But then last night she told a reader —who asked why David short-changed the number of sexcapades with Ava—that it was because he "trickle-truthed" Emily. Why are readers not calling her out on her lies and retractions?
          
          Reader engagement has dwindled. No theories. No predictions. No real discussions. All the readers who actually brought something to the table have left, and the new ones are busy blindly praising the author’s “wordsmithing” and “plot" and a " book like no other." 
          Again—what book? What plot?
          
          I'll be offline after this post, so I'll read ITA later, or maybe tomorrow. 

Tsaysshesays

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@slcwatt55 @Nancy_818 Baby Grace 
          
          Baby Grace is so aptly named—she really is David’s grace, his way to worm himself back into the “family man” facade for optics, w/o lifting a finger. Because earlier, in 7D, David didn’t think he was ready to be a dad again—even when he knew Emily wanted a girl. And at the start of ITA, we saw he thought of "giving"  Emily a girl as a Band-Aid over their wounds. To shut her up.
          
          Even now, we see no excitement from him. He says it as “a girl, like Emily wanted.” I know men w/ grown sons who would give an arm and a leg to have a daughter. All my dreams of seeing David be a decent girl dad are down the drain. This man needed a minute to PROCESS the "gender reveal" when he already knew Emily was pregnant—while the BOYS were completely blindsided. He is such a fucking narcissist. I’m throwing in the towel. I genuinely don’t see anything that can redeem David anymore.
          
          

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@slcwatt55 @Nancy_818 ITA- You’re not the only one, S. 
          
          This book HAS completely flatlined, and I don’t see anything changing its course. I read the latest chapter a couple of hours earlier, and I genuinely can’t tell you what I remember—THAT’S how disinterested I was. The only thing that stuck was Max ( as you said) sounding like he is 40. While I think he gave David good, there needed to be more anger, befitting a 16 y/o POV. Teenage boys are far more vicious than any grown adult out there.Theo was like a 8 y/o GIRL excited about ponies and barbies. Emily is still not strong, not a phoenix. We see her as just as indifferent to this separation as David. 
                Contrast this w/Lily. When we’re pulled into Lily’s POV, I want to crawl into the book and punch Reed for her heartbreak—even though I KNOW how much he loves her and that he never had any feelings or personal interest in Gigi. WE FEEL Lily. The reader was right—Emily who?
               We still have a few hours to read 7D, but I didn't bother—b/c what’s the point of wasting time on a storyline that’s crashed WORSE than the silver did yesterday? At least I still have hope for silver.

Nancy_818

@Tsaysshesays @slcwatt55 ITA new chapter is up
          
          Note: 7DIM comes down tonight.
          
          I have thoughts about this chapter, many are unprintable. I will say a pet peeve… telling kids, I’m pregnant instead of saying I’m having a baby. Not sure why, but I dislike it. 
          
          This chapter emphasized something you pointed out, his place is 60 or more minutes away from the house. (His place is not that far away from his office…) And Max rightfully calls him out for his single guy lifestyle home.
          
          I think Max is fearing what you are S, that the baby will become an excuse for David to come back and weak Emily will give in on it. Max is the only character in the book who seems to see things clearly.
          
          The kids going to Barcelona with Kathryn? Barcelona? I’m going to need help on why two teens picked that… [They’re too young to have seen The Cheetah Girls :) ]

slcwatt55

@Nancy_818 @Tsaysshesays - ITA, OMENS, & YOUR SON WRITING
            
            It WAS an omen - hahahahaha. Nancy - your son makes me laugh. God, I hope he writes the same way I hope T writes. These minds are too good not to give it a stab.
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@Nancy_818 @Tsaysshesays ITA - N CHAMPIONING VOICEMAIL
            
            Nancy - Hallelujah! My hands were in the air as I read your comments on ITA! Go girl - GO!  All of it. And - you're so, so right - Emily is BORING - excruciatingly so. Of course David cheated -- Emily makes ME want to throw myself out a window due to boredom over her comment-worthy pathetically passive personality. ("I'll have to fly by myself?" -- or whatever the fck she said? Really? Is she also afraid to drive by herself to the grocery store? What woman talks like this in 2026 -- in the US? I flew by myself at, like, 10yo - btw.) I JUST CANNOT STAND WIMPY AND INDECISIVE EMILY -- she's completely lame. This book is already writing its end -- you realize. David takes back Emily (because she's a loyal doormat) and because of the baby -- and he wants a family because it makes him think he's a better guy than he is. Emily takes David back because she has the personality of a potato -- and will never realize that he continues to cheat on her for the next 30 years because she's completely obtuse, slow to the punch, forgetful, and -- ultimately -- too passive to speak up.
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@slcwatt55 @Tsaysshesays ITA Funny about London Calling
            
            I was expressing frustration because the new chapter of ITA wouldn’t load on my iPad.
            
            My son replied, “Are you sure that’s not a sign? An omen… a hint… a sign to Stop Reading That Book?!?!”
            
            He was RIGHT!
            
            My blood pressure cannot take chapters like that.
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