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Ok,
          	
          	I will be leaving tomorrow and will be away for approximately two weeks.
          	
          	A little rant, sorry for cluttering your inboxes with my insecurity.
          	
          	Frankly, I don't know what I should be doing when I come back. 
          	
          	I've also posted my work on AO3. It performs about as well there as it does here, which means not very well at all. I am adaptable, I have a different set of excuses for various places: here, it's the algorithm and the shitty cover, there, the fact that it is an original work and not a fanfic. And, overall, of course, marketing, or the lack thereof.
          	
          	I also understand that the opening is not very engaging -- it's a 'bear with me' chapter, which I absolutely shouldn't have done.
          	
          	But... in theory, what I have is (partially) a dark romance with some smut. It should soar. Well, it should hop and flap its wings a little.
          	
          	Still... I just found -- through the same reddit sub I futilely tried to use for advertising -- an AO3 story with the same external params as mine and whooping 100x more engagement. Same publication timeframe, IMO worse tags. I contacted the author to ask what she did. Well, nothing more than I did. Actually, on Reddit, much less. I wasted so much time on sticking my story in front of people.
          	
          	One main difference is that it starts from rape smut and works back from there. Not sure how far, I didn't follow it too far... because it is not that interesting to me. Because it looks like it is a story of an asshole guy and a passive victim girl, tagged 'bad guy stays bad'. Baseline dark romance. And I have zero interest in reading that.
          	
          	And I have a story about a girl who is both brighter and tougher than the guy and wins and uses him in the end (not accepts her fate and falls in love), and a guy who is not actually evil, but traumatized and forced by circumstances.
          	
          	I created an anonymous account because I was uncomfortable with the dark nature of my story.
          	
          	Now, I am not comfortable with how dark the readers seem to be...

paleverse

@mmdaesatra 
          	  
          	  Oh thank you so much, I needed to hear this.
          	  
          	  Yes, this much good may come out of it, that I will leave behind my doubts about what I am 'allowed' to write -- seems literally nobody else has those anymore. I'll just write what I want and put it out and stop caring about anything else...
          	  
          	  Well, I probably won't.
          	  
          	  But I should :).
          	  
          	  See you in a couple of weeks, can't wait to finish your book!
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paleverse

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@nadzzsam 
          	  Thank you so much! 
          	  
          	  The doubt in my writing is not even the worst, more like the doubt in ... humanity?
          	  
          	  Well, I'm not pearl clutching... ok, I am, but not about the smut or the violence per se, I could delete the first two chapters of my story and get a similarly strong opening [might be a good idea? Dunno]. In that book over there, a girl woke up after being drugged and raped while unconscious, and got blackmailed by a guy with some photos he had taken of her into more sex, and pretending to be his girlfriend from now on. Nothing brutal -- I have written worse (published worse, written much worse).
          	  
          	  The problem is the framing. When I see this kind of scene and think of a happy ending for that guy, it involves a flamethrower, a woodchipper, or at very least a pair of rusty shears. I just can't wrap my head around the number of people who read something like that and go "yes, I'd like to see them happy ever after, they seem like such an interesting couple".
          	  
          	  Reveling in your helplessness, not even imagining overcoming it (by seeing yourself in a stronger character) and taking responsibility for your life -- and at the same time fawning over pure evil, not even the cool, complex kind, just selfish, narcissistic and dumb. "Oh, but he really wants her." A crocodile really wants to eat you, go fawn over that. I just don't get it.
          	  
          	  I think that this form of 'romance' might simply be my trigger, and I never ever expected myself even to have one, since I actually enjoy reading really nasty stuff -- I just don't like bad people being presented as attractive. At the very least, I think I'll give up on labeling my things as dark romance (-ish) and stick to erotic horror, because in horror, at least a monster is a monster.
          	  
          	  Ok, rant off.
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mmdaesatra

@paleverse 
          	  
          	  Hey, I just wanted to say, I read this and felt so much of it in my chest.
          	  
          	  You are allowed to rant. You’re allowed to feel insecure and disillusioned and lost sometimes. That doesn’t make your story any less valuable. It makes you human.
          	  
          	  The work you’ve created matters. Even if algorithms bury it. Even if it doesn’t explode overnight. Even if you question yourself every day. Writing something dark, raw, that doesn’t pander is harder and braver. I hope you give yourself credit for that.
          	  
          	  It hurts to see other stories soar when yours feels invisible. But the truth is, no amount of engagement can measure the depth of what you’ve written. 
          	  
          	  Also… your story doesn’t sound like a failure. It sounds like a knife in the right hands. It’s sharp, it doesn’t follow trends or tropes that make you cringe, and honestly? That’s rare. 
          	  
          	  I hope when you come back, you remember that you are not your stats. You’re a storyteller. And you’re doing beautifully.
          	  
          	  (And selfishly? I want more.)
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Viora_115

Hey there, I am your judge for the best dialogues category in Hogwarts scholars award. Can you kindly specify the chapters?
          
          All the best!!❣️

Viora_115

@Viora_115 thank you, and of course all the best the book sounds cool
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paleverse

@Viora_115 
            Oh hi, you caught me still at home, good.
            
            That's a surprisingly difficult question. I was going for the general vibe and didn't really think this through (the lines I particularly like are spread around). Let's see what would be most representative....
            
            In priority order -- the chapters are long, so take as much as you can/want. 
            
            Chapter 16. Campfire (a lot going on under the surface, the scene has some Tarantino vibes, or at least it was supposed to have them, my favourite chapter in general), 
            
            Chapter 10. Games (most representative for the whole middle arc),
            
            Chapter 1. Basically, because the way the characters are introduced sets the tone for the book. 
            
            The grand finale (18th chapter + epilogue) also has its advantages... but this is like 1/4th of the book already, so I doubt you'd have that much time for it, given all the submissions.
            
            Thank you for your hard work and happy reading!
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paleverse

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Ok,
          
          I will be leaving tomorrow and will be away for approximately two weeks.
          
          A little rant, sorry for cluttering your inboxes with my insecurity.
          
          Frankly, I don't know what I should be doing when I come back. 
          
          I've also posted my work on AO3. It performs about as well there as it does here, which means not very well at all. I am adaptable, I have a different set of excuses for various places: here, it's the algorithm and the shitty cover, there, the fact that it is an original work and not a fanfic. And, overall, of course, marketing, or the lack thereof.
          
          I also understand that the opening is not very engaging -- it's a 'bear with me' chapter, which I absolutely shouldn't have done.
          
          But... in theory, what I have is (partially) a dark romance with some smut. It should soar. Well, it should hop and flap its wings a little.
          
          Still... I just found -- through the same reddit sub I futilely tried to use for advertising -- an AO3 story with the same external params as mine and whooping 100x more engagement. Same publication timeframe, IMO worse tags. I contacted the author to ask what she did. Well, nothing more than I did. Actually, on Reddit, much less. I wasted so much time on sticking my story in front of people.
          
          One main difference is that it starts from rape smut and works back from there. Not sure how far, I didn't follow it too far... because it is not that interesting to me. Because it looks like it is a story of an asshole guy and a passive victim girl, tagged 'bad guy stays bad'. Baseline dark romance. And I have zero interest in reading that.
          
          And I have a story about a girl who is both brighter and tougher than the guy and wins and uses him in the end (not accepts her fate and falls in love), and a guy who is not actually evil, but traumatized and forced by circumstances.
          
          I created an anonymous account because I was uncomfortable with the dark nature of my story.
          
          Now, I am not comfortable with how dark the readers seem to be...

paleverse

@mmdaesatra 
            
            Oh thank you so much, I needed to hear this.
            
            Yes, this much good may come out of it, that I will leave behind my doubts about what I am 'allowed' to write -- seems literally nobody else has those anymore. I'll just write what I want and put it out and stop caring about anything else...
            
            Well, I probably won't.
            
            But I should :).
            
            See you in a couple of weeks, can't wait to finish your book!
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paleverse

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@nadzzsam 
            Thank you so much! 
            
            The doubt in my writing is not even the worst, more like the doubt in ... humanity?
            
            Well, I'm not pearl clutching... ok, I am, but not about the smut or the violence per se, I could delete the first two chapters of my story and get a similarly strong opening [might be a good idea? Dunno]. In that book over there, a girl woke up after being drugged and raped while unconscious, and got blackmailed by a guy with some photos he had taken of her into more sex, and pretending to be his girlfriend from now on. Nothing brutal -- I have written worse (published worse, written much worse).
            
            The problem is the framing. When I see this kind of scene and think of a happy ending for that guy, it involves a flamethrower, a woodchipper, or at very least a pair of rusty shears. I just can't wrap my head around the number of people who read something like that and go "yes, I'd like to see them happy ever after, they seem like such an interesting couple".
            
            Reveling in your helplessness, not even imagining overcoming it (by seeing yourself in a stronger character) and taking responsibility for your life -- and at the same time fawning over pure evil, not even the cool, complex kind, just selfish, narcissistic and dumb. "Oh, but he really wants her." A crocodile really wants to eat you, go fawn over that. I just don't get it.
            
            I think that this form of 'romance' might simply be my trigger, and I never ever expected myself even to have one, since I actually enjoy reading really nasty stuff -- I just don't like bad people being presented as attractive. At the very least, I think I'll give up on labeling my things as dark romance (-ish) and stick to erotic horror, because in horror, at least a monster is a monster.
            
            Ok, rant off.
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mmdaesatra

@paleverse 
            
            Hey, I just wanted to say, I read this and felt so much of it in my chest.
            
            You are allowed to rant. You’re allowed to feel insecure and disillusioned and lost sometimes. That doesn’t make your story any less valuable. It makes you human.
            
            The work you’ve created matters. Even if algorithms bury it. Even if it doesn’t explode overnight. Even if you question yourself every day. Writing something dark, raw, that doesn’t pander is harder and braver. I hope you give yourself credit for that.
            
            It hurts to see other stories soar when yours feels invisible. But the truth is, no amount of engagement can measure the depth of what you’ve written. 
            
            Also… your story doesn’t sound like a failure. It sounds like a knife in the right hands. It’s sharp, it doesn’t follow trends or tropes that make you cringe, and honestly? That’s rare. 
            
            I hope when you come back, you remember that you are not your stats. You’re a storyteller. And you’re doing beautifully.
            
            (And selfishly? I want more.)
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paleverse

Hello,
          
          And the last chapter before the longer pause, I was going to publish it tomorrow, but turns out I'm gonna be busy already.
          
          So, this is a bizarre one; I'm kind of proud, but also not sure what reactions to expect. My personal weirdness counter only goes to 3.6, so it's a "not great not terrible" situation for me, but for someone sane, well...
          
           It's about Sam's escape from the vampire nest that leaves it in flames, but it is also about... Sam developing feelings for Gareth, I guess. This is how you write people developing feelings, right? 
          
          https://www.wattpad.com/1560088400-buried-dreams-18%2B-7-1-exfiltration-%F0%9F%8C%B6%EF%B8%8F%E2%9B%93%EF%B8%8F%F0%9F%92%80
          
          Oh well, let me know what you think.

paleverse

Hello there!
          
          Next chapter of Buried Dreams -- still called that, though I am closer and closer to changing it to The Burning Void.
          
          Slightly ahead of schedule, I'm going to publish the next one still this weekend, and then there will be at least two weeks of a pause — vacations with no laptop, a weird and scary situation.
          
          In this chapter, Sam goes undercover and goes full Black Widow on a poor, unsuspecting vampire.
          
          Another long one, so as usual, split in two for your convenience. 
          
          https://www.wattpad.com/1560087408-buried-dreams-18%2B-6-1-interrogation
          
          There is mature content here, as you would suspect.

paleverse

Stop! Feedback time!
          
          I will definitely need to change the working title 'Buried Dreams' to something that doesn't sound so soft, because it is goddamn comical against what happens in current chapters.
          
          I need a really good, final one, though, because I will also do a cover change then, and this is such a bother... 
          
          My current best contender is 'All the pretty monsters'. What do you think?

paleverse

Or maybe... The Burning Void? It was in the prequel and has similar form to the first title.
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nadzzsam

Lol I have no idea... 
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nadzzsam

I was judging another book... and remembered your book! 
          
          Lol! I still have to read your completely but... I think that book is more unhinged. 

nadzzsam

@paleverse ooooohhhhhhhh I might! I might! But at night.... It's broad daylight over here
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paleverse

@nadzzsam 
            Thx! Added to a list.
            Yep, it's this one. 
            
            https://www.wattpad.com/story/392994116-buried-dreams-18%2B
            
            It has two parallel POVs, and Sam's one starts in 3. Melting chapter, if you just want to check what happened directly after the Epilogue of Bright Room.
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nadzzsam

@paleverse You started the sequel too? I'm so left behind because of judging contests.FML!
            
            here is the link.... Read the TW!
            https://www.wattpad.com/story/392842733
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