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Manson's "Victims"

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Now, I'm not saying Marilyn Manson doesn't have victims. Unlike the Johnny Depp case, I actually get an iffy feeling.

But his accusers straight up saying that Johnny shouldn't have won so that they could easier sue AND backing Amber Turd, despite her also having women victims go against her, is REALLY not helping their case.

On Wednesday, a jury reached a verdict in Johnny Depp's lawsuit against his ex-wife, Amber Heard.

The split verdict , but Depp was awarded $10 million in compensatory damages and $5 million in punitive damages while Heard was awarded $2 million in compensatory damages and nothing in punitive damages.

The internet was divided, many people rooting for Depp while others mourned for Heard.

Despite how the vast majority of the world , there is no denying that the verdict of the trial has the power to encourage men accused of abuse to sue their accusers.

And the first famous man to take up that torch seems to be one of Depp's close friends.

Just months before Depp and Heard's trial started, Manson , who had revealed in an Instagram post from 2021 that her abuser was Manson.

"The name of my abuser is Brian Warner, also known to the world as Marilyn Manson," "He started grooming me when I was a teenager and horrifically abused me for years."

Following Wood's accusations, at least accused the artist of sexually assaulting them as well. 

The verdict in Depp's lawsuit against his own accuser has now offered powerful men a guide to how they will be able to weaponize their power against their victims, and take revenge by way of public humiliation because they now know they can do that.

Even before the verdict was announced, many Depp fans quickly turned their attention to Marilyn Manson, whose real name is Brian Hugh Warner.

has taken inspiration from the #JusticeForJohnnyDepp crowd.

It is frightening to think about how the Depp verdict will impact cases like Manson's, and how the public will receive the trial, despite the mounting evidence that Manson was the abuser in his relationship with Wood.

It has done irreversible damage to the MeToo movement, and now victims everywhere will retract their statements out of fear of being potentially sued by their abusers, and made into a was made into.

"From a #metoo standpoint, it's ... bad and dangerous," law professor Susan Seager.

"I just think that sends a bad signal to men and women or whoever is the abuser that, you know, you just can sue your victim and ruin them by bringing them to court for a defamation case."

The truth is that survivors will now be terrified to come forward because for weeks they watched a victim of violence speak freely, only to be penalized by both the media and the court of law. It's a dismissal of abuse and personal rights.

Heard is now the first domino to fall. It's even more concerning because she in her 2018 op-ed, yet the jury found that her allegations were not false while also finding that she had defamed Depp by making them.

Now Manson's lawyers will most likely take aim at Wood, questioning her claims and denying her experience of abuse just like Depp's lawyers did to Heard.

Again, what you believe about Depp is not relevant. Celebrating his victory is celebrating an avenue for real abusers to silence real victims.

What will be the fate of Evan Rachel Wood? Because if anyone is using the Depp verdict to choose to no longer believe women, then they never did in the first place. 

I feel bad for the victims. But this is bs. They're basically saying a man doesn't have the right to say "No, that abuser is lying."
Even if the Depp vs Heard never happened or wasn't public, Manson would still probably try to sue for defamation.

No one is using the Depp issue to no longer believe women. People have been TRYING to fight against men being falsely accused for a while now! How many men went to prison for an assault they never committed? A case with no proof other than words from the accuser's mouth? This just made it so that hopefully innocent men have an easier time being PROVEN innocent.

But I bet if it was a woman suing her abusive ex-husband for defamation, they'd 100% back her.

"What you believe about Depp is not relevant. Celebrating his victory is celebrating an avenue for real abusers to silence real victims."

What I'm reading is "Celebrating a man who won a case against his abuser who tried to slander him means you support abusers. And Johnny Depp is the ACTUAL abuser!"

Bruh, just say you're sexist and move on. What happened to you is irrelevant when it comes to the fact you think men can't be victims of abuse.
(Not saying sexual abuse/assault is excusable at all though)

I was 50/50 on the situation because, well, I grew up with Manson's music. But I still didn't deny that he had victims. After the Heard vs Depp case, I still was 50/50 until I saw the proof. 

But this BS where they're basically saying men can't be abused by women, that women can't be abusers, because they, women, were abused by a man is what makes me believe them less. NOT the case itself.

Not to mention, as I said in the last chap, that Heard had ex-girlfriends speak out against her too. If anyone is making anything look bad, it's a) these women for completely forgetting this fact, and b) Amber making the LGBTQ+ community look bad.

So whatever part of me was going to believe them just got drained some.

Again, not denying Manson had victims. But this is just disgusting.